Ducks Gameday -- Back on the wrong end of Captain Elbows.
Anaheim Ducks (1-1-1) at Philadephia Flyers (3-1-0)
Broad Street Hockey can now assume the task of fending off anti-Pronger trolls.
It's tough for me to put together a solid remembrance piece on Chris Pronger -- how can I properly do justice to the three years of intimidation, suspensions, and opponent hatred, not to mention the Ducks' Stanley Cup? Pronger is for sure a unique game changer -- a top shutdown defender with fantastic offensive skills -- and if it weren't for his two elbow suspensions in the '07 playoffs, he would have been my shoo-in for Conn Smythe. He was easily the most-booed Duck in visiting arenas, which was impressive considering his competition, plus he's useful in front of a microphone -- I do tend to overprioritize things like that.
Thank god he's on the east coast now, or we'd probably get to see a lot more of this:
The Flyers have gotten off to a quick start with Pronger aboard, winning their first three games before a late loss to the Penguins -- it feels similar to how the Ducks' stormed out of the gate after first acquiring Pronger, though in that Cup season the Ducks didn't suffer a regulation loss until their 17th game. Still, we've seen firsthand the additive power of Pronger -- put him on an already-playoff team and watch out! Talent inserted at the top of a lineup has a nice trickle-down effect of success -- lower players get sheltered into easier roles, and results improve across the board.
What was most awesome about Pronger's three years in Anaheim was the fact that it was really three years of Pronger + Niedermayer, an unreal combination of talent. Pronger was the perfect complement to Scotty, it seemed -- Niedermayer was a rover, Pronger was an anchor -- but both were workhorses. When played apart (as was the norm except on power plays), the duo was able to keep lesser defensive partners afloat and control most minutes of a game. When played together (power plays plus special occasions like shutting down Spezheatledsson or Thorleauguchi), they were unbelievable. By the end of Pronger's time in Anaheim, the power play configuration essentially became Pronger at the point and Scotty at the front of the net, Holmstrom-style -- Pronger's point presence definitely gave Scotty extra license to roam.
I'm still in favor of moving Pronger, btw -- even with the Ducks' struggles and Philly's early success, Pronger had to be moved before that next contract was signed. Philadelphia is now carrying the risk of Pronger's next over-35-multiyear-contract; that's something that likely Anaheim couldn't afford to do. Besides, Luca Sbisa has looked great and Joffrey Lupul has fit in so far (Killing penalties? OMFG!), and I'm still excited for the draft picks, however late in the first round they are.
Still, we had some good fucking times, Pronger. After the jump, a walk down memory lane -- some of Sleek's favorite BoC Pronger-themed art.

Waa! Gimme back my superstar! -- 10/4/06

Pronger's first visit back to Edmonton -- 11/27/06

The B.A. Baracus of the Ducks' A-Team, from G5 of the WCF's gameday post -- 5/20/07

Pronger, Brad May, and Todd Bertuzzi in comic form -- 7/19/07

Sketch in preparation for Ducks/Kings in London, England -- 9/18/07

Pronger (x3), Bertuzzi, and May get featured as part of my updated Duck! logo -- 4/6/08

Corey Perry's elbow acts under the influence of the Captain -- 1/11/09

The Prong-orail, devastating NHL cities after his departure -- 7/9/09
I guess I should be clear -- even though most of these cartoons are mockeries of Pronger's evil side, I'm still a huge fan of the guy -- hey, I'm a sucker for winning. If he stays on the east coast, I probably won't boo him again for the rest of his career (I was a hearty booer before Pronger was a Duck; in fact it was tough not to reflexively boo the guy his first few games -- he had just eliminated the Ducks a couple months earlier). And while I tend to make fun, I've definitely spent a lot of internet ink defending Pronger's elbows and skateblade -- now that he and Brian Burke are gone I figure most of our comment trolls are headed elsewhere.
Godspeed, Pronger. Seriously, dude -- thanks for everything. Worth every penny.
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Incidentally, it's weird how this road trip schedule has gone for the Ducks, at least in regards to baseball playoffs. On Tuesday, the Ducks played in Minnesota, same day as the Twins played their one-game AL Central playoff (Twins and Wild both won in extra innings). On Thursday, the Ducks played in Boston, same day as the Red Sox opened in Anaheim (Bruins and BoSox both got blown out). Today, the Ducks play in Philadelphia, same day as the Phillies play in Colorado. Tomorrow, the Ducks play in New York, same day as the Yankees try to eliminate the Twins. While the timing of visits to these cities do make hockey feel of secondary importance, I guess there's positivity in this trend -- next week the Ducks return to Anaheim, which suggests that the Halos will still be playing. Go Angels.
Prediction: Did you know? In the four seasons since the lockout, the Ducks have earned a win against every other team except one -- they are 0-2-1 against the Philadelphia Flyers. Let's end that today -- Ducks 3, Flyers 2. Goals by Sbisa, Lupul, and Ryan. Naturally, elbow by Pronger.
Go Ducks.
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yea i like sbisa..i got a mancrush on him right now..ill admit it..screw u if u think im gay
lupul score a lot on my shitty ps2 nhl 09 game
not sure why i just threw that in..probally cuz u brought his name up
why do we suck so much in philly?…
we should have some type of contest in how long it will take for corey perry to get a pronger elbow to the face..i predict 6 minute mark of the 1st period
or a predication on when the dux fans start hating pronger..id say by the 2nd period
me ive always have been fine with the guy..with the dux and without them..i just like way he plays…i never hated scott stevens either..u need guys like that in the leauge IMO makes the game intresting
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
we should have some type of contest in how long it will take for corey perry to get a pronger elbow to the face..
Actually, now that I’m thinking back on it, Corey Perry’s elbowing suspension was taken against the Philadelphia Flyers. And Perry got suspended longer for that than both of Pronger’s elbow suspensions combined.
Maybe they’ll have an elbow-to-elbow collision — that’d hurt.
me ive always have been fine with the guy..with the dux and without them..i just like way he plays
Sure, when he’s not in the process of eliminating Anaheim he’s a respectable guy. I liked his elimination of the Wings. :)
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OC Register has a short interview with Pronger, and there’s an odd question on whether or not the Ducks ever offered him an extension:
There was nothing ever offered. Things never really got down to that. They obviously have their own issues that they’re trying to deal with and their own direction. They felt like this is the way for them to continue rebuilding and building for the future.
Maybe I’m confused a bit, wouldn’t it be sort of CBA-illegal for the Ducks to have offered him a contract extension? I guess they could have agreed on principle on something, maybe that’s the question, but pre-July 1st I’m pretty sure they couldn’t offer him anything.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Pretty sure you’re right. You can’t negotiate extensions until you’re in the last year of the contract, IIRC. Maybe that’s different for youngsters who are coming up on RFA and not UFA, but I believe that is the case with UFAs at least.
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Did you see Pronger strangle-man-handle Kunitz?
I hope thats not what our current Ducks have instore for them.
But, yeah, good luck to Prongs, exept when playing Anaheim .
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I saw some of that — heh, at least he only used neck-grabbing and didn’t Handzus the guy.
And yeah, he’ll be pushing around Getzlaf tonight, I suspect, and probably grinning the whole time.
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Yup, I bet Perry gets creamed a couple of times tonight as well. He’s been hanging out in front of the net again, which is good, but will result in some scrums. It’s gonna be a fun game to watch.
I do not hate the guy, and I respect him as a player, but I will be booing him tonight. It just feels like the right thing to do, he is not a Duck.
hooked on quack
It’d be awesome if the Ducks all came out for the first period in college-style face cages. Probably not awesome in terms of results — I imagine switching gear has its downsides — but I’d laugh a lot.
And it’s not like the Ducks score first period goals anyways — why not?
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When Pronger was a Blue, I couldn’t stand the cheap shot asshole.
Somehow, in eliminating the Wings a couple times (something the Blues could never do!) and in very large part because of this blog, I ended up liking him. The way he carried those Oilers and Ducks teams, he kind of crossed to another level, from being a good defensemen who I couldn’t stand to showing that he is one of the very best in the game, and you’ve got to respect that.
It sorta bothers me that I don’t hate the guy anymore. I’ll still call him one of the dirtiest players in the game, and rail on him relentlessly for trying to kill Yzerman, but some how I don’t actually hate the guy anymore. Damn you, Earl.
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Had he stayed in the western conference, I think I’d quickly be able to re-hate the guy (while certainly respecting his ability to be hated). But off in that distant eastern conference, I think he’s safe from my pithy wrath.
Plus I have him on my fantasy roster for this year and likely next (one of our keepers has to be a defenseman). Just PIMs tonight, please.
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When he was on the Ducks, I had a healthy respect for the dude, but I couldn’t quite outright like him. Now that he’s in the East, I’m openly rooting for the guy. Honestly, if the East doesn’t just roll over for the Crosby & Malkin show and actually punished them for a couple of series, I bet the SCF would’ve turned out differently last year… Let me just finish crying into my drink here.
Really though, I think its damn near embarassing the way Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin are allowed to freely roam opposition slots and crash the net without ever having been really defended against. I mean, did anyone see that CAR/PIT series last year? I hope Pronger shows that conference how to play defense against a superstar forward like that. Put ’em on their asses.
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Naturally, elbow by Pronger.
Might be the safest prediction in the history of the BoC.
Dodgers-Cardinals (playoff game)? Kings-Blues (my team)? Nope, I’ll take Ducks-Philadelphia Prongers.
Over/under on the elbow: 9.5 seconds.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
Tonight’s Lineup, courtesy of the OC Register Ducks blog:
Bobby Ryan – Ryan Getzlaf – Corey Perry
Ryan Carter – Saku Koivu – Teemu Selanne
Joffrey Lupul – Todd Marchant – Evgeny Artyukhin
Mike Brown – Petteri Nokelainen – George Parros
Scott Niedermayer – Steve Eminger
Ryan Whitney – James Wisniewski
Luca Sbisa – Nick Boynton
Scratches: Andrew Ebbett, Erik Christensen, Sheldon Brookbank
Hiller is supposed to start his second in a row, probably Giguere tomorrow.
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For statheads or goalie buffs — SBN newcomer Behind the Net takes a look at shot quality and expected save percentage, and who has been outperforming expectations since the lockout.
Jonas Hiller tops the list. Poor J.S. Giguere is still an impressive 13th.
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Nah, it just measures anybody who has faced 1000 shots since the lockout, whether they are currently employed or not.
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Detroit offered him a tryout this year, IIRC.
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I was really hoping they would. It would only solidify that they have the worst goaltending in the league.
Plus, just think of all those beach ball photoshops that would re-emerge.
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I know what you mean.
Maybe it’s that whole…Pronger on the PP thing.
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(I shouldn’t tell you) — it’s the fourth game. That’s why it’s stressful.
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Meh, at this point I generally expect to be down 1-0 after every first period.
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Bleh — we should set an over/under of when this season the Ducks will score a first period goal. Before or after Halloween?
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(looks at Ducks schedule) I think I’m going to have to go with SK eleven on this one. After tonight, there are only 8 more games before Nov. 1. :P
but what about all this secondary scoring we acquired during the offseason?
shouldn’t we be scoring left and right?
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So far they’re using the first period as a “warm up”…
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and second ( 2 shots on goal), and third (lose a 3 goal lead).
I’m tired of being out shot 100-10.
hooked on quack
Counting preseason, it’s been a dozen games and they’ve scored in one first period.
Carlyle should wake everyone up an hour earlier than usual tomorrow, or find a way to delay the game.
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you know…two open men on the blue line, I’d really RATHER that Getzlaf be the one taking the shot instead of Whitney. But I guess that’s probably asking too much, at least someone took a shot.
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I might not have been watching carefully enough — I thought there were two moments of “badness” out of Cotton Gin vs. one moment of “goodness”.
I can probably live with that, better than five moments of “badness” — or rather, I suppose I’ll have to live with it.
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I guess my complaint was more with Getzlaf not taking shots (as usual).
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Koivu is awesome —
Breaks up that chance and gets the 3-on-2 — I’m not sure when I’ve last seen a shorthanded 3-on-2 for Anaheim.
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yeah I’m digging our scoring chances this period. If we can keep it up, we could win this game.
hooked on quack
Weak call. But hey, there’s been enough correct calls on Ducks stupidity that I’m not going to gripe.
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Artoo just took a healthy swipe at Pronger’s arm, I think.
He should take a shot, though — I believe he’s still shooting at 100% accuracy this season.
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Craziness, Hiller — uh, Teemu, you still gotta get that puck out, no matter how HOF you are.
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this sux
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-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions
I dunno, I hope it doesn’t become a common theme for me to wish that Koivu’s effort could be put into Getzlaf’s body.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
He looks fine to me. He’s setup Perry and Ryan a couple dozen times already in the first 4 games. They just aren’t finishing. Although you can tell his stamina isn’t too good by the 3rd period, i think the surgery probably set him back a little bit in terms of getting back into game shape.
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about time…
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
damn might have to start clowing whitney
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
stop clowning…..damn non edit button
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
yea pretty stupid and duck like
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
artoo fucks up…
sbisa makes another great play..my mancrush continues
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
he is now an offical duck…penalty in the offensive end
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
damn artoo almost made up for it…fuuuuuck…that backhand should have went in
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
eminger dont pull a whiz…dickhead
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-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions
The Ballad of Teemu Selanne eh? That first goal was sick.
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that guy has to be drinking
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
sbisa again…im almost pitching a tent…
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions
how did we not score there
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions
shit i know
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
B-Ry had a chance — don’t know if he’s on the shootout card after that missed net.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Hiller with the secretly surprising save and win!
While we definitely stole some points that we gave up earlier on the trip, I’d much rather have stolen points from Minnesota and given them to Philly than what actually happened.
Still — fuck complaining. Win!
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love it
I think of myself as an intelligent, sensitive human being with the soul of a clown which always forces me to blow it at the most important moments
-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions
Like a true Ducks fan, I turned off the set after the second goal by Pronger and went straight for the whiskey bottle. For the record, I will now be required by the Law of Teemu Selanne to turn off the set anytime the Ducks have a two goal deficit. I LOVE YOU TEEMU.
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besides that stupid getzlaf-like pnealty im likeing artoo…guy barely gets on the ice but seems to be noticable everytime
hayward is right about one thing(cant belive im saying that) teemu does score in bunches
and i liked another player tonite..youll never guess who he is
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-Jim Morrison-
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions
Probably had to change your shorts, too, I wager.
Should we be worried? :)
http://www.battleofcali.com/
im not telling
kings might choke? 2-1 now
I <3 sbisa
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s been bugging me for a while — Sbisa reminds me of someone, and I finally figured out who it is.


On the left right, Elizabeth Reaser, who used to play a recurring role on Grey’s Anatomy.
If he lisped like Bobby, that would be a great nickname.
As it is, I’m okay with Pisa Lee – ning – Tow – uhr.
Interesting Star selections…gotta love the East Coast media! :)
Three star selections
1st: CHRIS PRONGER
2nd: TEEMU SELANNE
3rd: RAY EMERY
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Shrug. Maybe that will make Teemu more affordable to re-sign next summer.
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good point….stupid how does sbisa..errrr i mean teemu not get the first star
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That whole thing is usually voted on with 17 seconds to go in regulation. They had no idea.
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emery belongs there…that guy was standing on his head at times
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 10, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude srSly
you know what’s great? Waking up and people inviting you out to be drunk. like THAT fucking early. And you’re alll like “no it’s too early” and they’re like “Don’t be a fag, come out with us” and you’re like “K”. And then you meet some hot girls but even though you’re drunk you’re still to nervous to approach them but even theough you’re nervous your buddies still accept you into their clan. It’s like, sometimes I wonder how Rudy’s “Cockfag” isn’t already integrated into the popular vernacular.
By the way I know there’s a whole paragragh above this one that I"m typing but I’m not sure what it says so I’m sorry it it offends anyone. Yay Ducks for beating Captain Elbows’s team tonight,
Put the Prozac away, what you need is Rat Poison.
And by possibly I mean “No” i was just mocking my immaturity
Put the Prozac away, what you need is Rat Poison.
Wow. Getting called out for the immaturity of your excess-drinking story?
A BoC first, maybe.
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by Earl Sleek on Oct 11, 2009 11:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Such a great week thus far, Ducks beat the Bruins
and the Halos beat the Bosux!
Let the Halo power flow...
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Oct 11, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions
Sorry to waste people's time with a meaningless comment, but I have insomnia and can no longer resist:
200.
I’m not usually this OCD (well, okay, I am), but seeing the comment total sit at 199 was driving me nuts.
Carry on.
from what i heard sounds like u need to watch the rangers-ducks replay..youll get to sleep in no time
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 13, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
:) You know, I think it eventually did. Today might be a pretty crummy day, but at least I’ll sleep well tonight. And I can scroll down the BoC main page without cringing.
I have a similar OCD thing, where my volume for my stereo in my truck has to be on an even number, or else I get this uneasy feeling. People that have noticed it, say I’m fucking wierd, but thats the way it is. I thought maybe you didnt like the odd number about it.
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Heh, I know it’s like the pot calling the kettle black, but your stereo volume quirk is weird.
Truth is, I don’t have any preferences for even numbers over odd, or prime numbers over non-primes, or anything like that. It just bothered me that the thread was only one comment away from being a nice, round number. If it had been 197 or 198, I doubt I would have noticed. Also, I don’t mind clutter/chaos, but when something’s neat and tidy except for just one thing out of place, I feel compelled to fix it. That’s natural, right?
Hmm, the more I explain my neuroses, the more neurotic I sound. Time for bed!
thats normal..
when i saw 199 i wanted to commented…btu wanted to say more than hey im commenting to make it 200…and i couldnt think of anything so i didnt
in hindsight i could have said rudy kelly is gay…and that would have been satisfactory
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 14, 2009 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions

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