Ducks Gameday -- Mr. Burke's Wild Ride
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:58 AM PDT
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Toronto Maple Leafs (0-7-1, 1 pt) at Anaheim Ducks (3-5-1, 7 pts), 7 pm
Laugh at Brian Burke at Anaheim Calling. Laugh with Brian Burke at Pension Plan Puppets.
(Author's note: Today's post is a little bit rushed -- had a hell of a long day yesterday, and today's looking pretty busy as well. I would have liked to said more about Burkie and possibly Beauchemin; feel free to add your thoughts or memories in the comments.
A week-and-a-half ago, our own SBN hockey blog leader James Mirtle, now doing a stint on the Maple Leafs beat or something, sent me an e-mail query about former Ducks GM Brian Burke:
Hey Earlie -
Would you happen to have a list of the roster players Burke had when he landed in Anaheim? I'm sort of wondering what sort of mess he was in when he got there and if there are any parallels to what's happening in Toronto.
And was Murray his assistant GM from the get-go there? Maybe I'll ask him how they turned it around.
James
Nice -- coming to me instead of Barstool Bob -- not sure what that last part was about. But it was something of an interesting question that did require a little research, as the early Burke days occurred before I was blogging. BoC archives are awesome for when I want to verify memories from the last three seasons, but pre-blog memories are susceptible to decay. So I hit up some dated Ducks publications to build Mirtle an early Brian Burke timeline -- what Burke acquired when he got to Anaheim and what significant moves he made immediately afterwards. Here's the results I sent Mirtle after a night of light cramming:
OK, James -- here's what I've got:
June 05 - Samuelis purchase Ducks (look this one up, though).
6/20/05 - Brian Burke hired.
7/14/05 - Bob Murray added.
7/29/05 - Sandis Ozolinsh signed to a 2-year deal (was going to be a UFA), traded for Todd Fedoruk (cost a 2nd rounder to Philly).
7/30/05 - Drafts Bobby Ryan 2nd overall, Brendan Mikkelson the next round; trades Holmqvist to Chicago for Travis Moen (in a deal that nobody cared about).
8/1/05 - Randy Carlyle hired as head coach.
8/4/05 - Signs two Niedermayer brothers to four-year deals (was Rob a UFA? Seems he was somehow committed to Anaheim).
8/22/05 - After a lot of UFA activity has come and gone, signs Teemu Selanne to a possibly-PR pity deal.
8/23/05 - Having appealed to Anaheim die-hards with Teemu, trades away two favorites --Steve Rucchin and Mike Leclerc -- in separate deals for spare parts.
11/15/05 - After only appearing in five games, trades Sergei Fedorov to Columbus for notably Francois Beauchemin.
11/21/05 - As part two of the deal, grabs Todd Marchant off waivers from Columbus.
1/8/06 - Trades Petr Sykora to the NY Rangers for Maxim Kondratiev, who would barely ever appear in a Ducks uniform.
3/9/06 - In three separate trade deadline deals, trades away Sandis Ozolinsh (who then was in substance abuse or something), and adds Sean O'Donnell and Jeff Friesen.
Following Summer -- culls the Ducks of even more Europeans -- lets Ruslan Salei walk and deals away Vitaly Vishnevski after arbitration. Oh yeah, and Pronger.
That seems to be the gist of it. So in terms of inherited talent, I think this is the list: J.S. Giguere, Ilya Bryzgalov, Sergei Fedorov, Andy McDonald, Chris Kunitz, Joffrey Lupul, Petr Sykora, Steve Rucchin, Mike Leclerc, Sammy Pahlsson, Ruslan Salei, Vitaly Vishnevski, plus a whack of prospects -- Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, Dustin Penner, Jonathan Hedstrom, Ladislav Smid, plus negotiating rights to Rob Niedermayer and Sandis Ozolinsh.
Acquired by trade: Todd Fedoruk, Travis Moen, Francois Beauchemin, Sean O'Donnell, Jeff Friesen
Acquired by waivers: Todd Marchant, plus a weird incident with Chris Kunitz and the Thrashers.
Signed: Scott Niedermayer, Teemu Selanne
So other than splashing on Niedermayer and lucking out on Selanne and Beauchemin, Burke didn't make sweeping changes to the roster -- he had a ridiculously full prospect pool and took steps to promote them up to the big club, later using the assets to land Pronger. That's got to be the main difference between Anaheim and Toronto, though -- their cupboard seems barer, and thus he's already resorted to trading picks instead of players. And Kessel's a nice player, but he's no Pronger -- I like how he spent our first-rounders better than what he's doing with the Leafs' first-rounders.
Incidentally, I did pick up this tidbit about Burke's first season in Anaheim -- started the year pretty mediocre -- 8-11-4 through the first 23, but picked up speed as the season progressed. At one point they won 9 of 10 in March, and finished with a 12-6-0 record in their final 18.
Hope all that helps,
ES
I'm not really sure what parallels there are to draw between what Burke first did in Anaheim to what Burke first did in Toronto -- not only are there huge differences in the assets he's inherited, but it's a different league now. You can't salary-dump a Sergei Fedorov for spare parts any more.
Burke may be out of his element in Toronto -- I really can't say -- but he was for sure an excellent choice to help push Anaheim over the top. He brought legitimacy and cockiness to a market that needed both, but ultimately I'm probably glad Burke left when he did -- seems he may be getting a little too free-spending on limited assets for my tastes.
Then again, with the awful play of the Ducks lately, perhaps we could use a little more Brian Burke out of Bob Murray. One thing about Burkie -- he takes poor play from his team personally, and at times overreacts. By the time the 2005-06 Mighty Ducks started 3-5-1 (same record as this year's Ducks), Burkie was already set to make some major changes -- the Fedorov deal happened not long afterwards.
This year? Well, Luca Sbisa is done with the NHL for this season -- that's somewhat a change. But by and large we're mostly just watching players move line-to-line; Barstool Bob hasn't really done much to shake up the team from its slumber just yet; we'll see how he reacts if on-ice problems persist.
For some bonus Burke coverage, here's some links back to the old blogspot site -- the "Burke Week" set of posts I put together when Brian Burke left for Toronto a year ago.
Brian Burke Week Part 1: Sleek defends three "bad" moves -- three moves I think Burkie is unfairly criticized for.
2. Trading Andy McDonald to St. Louis for Doug Weight
Yes, this was salary-necessitated, and yes, I’d rather have Andy Mac than Doug Weight on my team any day. Still, this needs context more than anything. As my quote above suggests, it wasn’t just a one-for-one trade; Andy McDonald was traded for Doug Weight + the tag space to keep Mathieu Schneider + the room to welcome back Scott Niedermayer + the room to later sign Teemu Selanne. The salary side sucked, I guess, but the Ducks by the end of that season had more than $24 million tied into three defensemen plus a goalie – a more expensive team than they could have afforded for a full season. As for success, yeah, there was no Stanley Cup, but in the 48 games after the McDonald/Weight trade (Scotty's return), the Ducks dropped nearly a full goal-against-per-game, and played on a pace that would have won them the President’s Trophy and the Jennings Trophy. Hard to be overly critical of a trade that transformed a .500 team into a top-tier contender.
Ducks Gameday—Burke Week #2: Let's get critical! -- three moves I think Burkie deserves criticism for.
2. Buying Out Todd Bertuzzi's Contract
Now again, I don't want to be misunderstood here -- I am thrilled that the Ducks are playing without Bertuzzi. It's so nice to know that everyone backchecks again, or at least pretends to. And while Morrison has been an offensive letdown early, I'd still take him over Bert anytime. But still, I'm not sure I like that Burke went the buyout route -- it's always struck me that buyouts are what rich teams do, and SoCal's Anaheim is not one of those teams. Burke has effectively spent some of next year's money on a player not in a Duck uniform, and that sort of future-spending should be off-limits for a departing GM.
Ducks Gameday—Burke Week #4: GM Lessons from a Cup Champ -- some of Burkie's strengths as a GM.
Lesson Three: Be true to your players and they’ll be true to you.
I can't think of one time Brian Burke didn’t righteously stand up for one of his players in Anaheim – no matter how stupid or how idiotic it was. It’s one reason Brian Burke is as hated as he is by rival fans, but probably one reason why players seem so loyal to him. Whether it’s Bertuzzi’s suckerpunch, Pronger’s elbows or skateblade, Selanneidermayer’s semi-retirements, or even softer stuff like Giguere dealing with his baby’s health – Burke is front-and-center deflecting criticism and supporting his guys. He’s done seemingly honorable things in waiving Bryzgalov and proving Giguere with a no-movement clause, and I think there's payoff to those moves -- I know players are loathe to say anything controversial, but I haven't heard any player critical of Burke, even guys who have left under tough circumstances (Penner, McDonald, Schneider, Bertuzzi). Whether or not fans like or dislike what Brian Burke has to say, it does seem that players do respond favorably to it, and I think that perception is helpful in luring free agents to sign or players to re-sign.
Ducks Gameday—Burke Week #5: Finale -- random follow-up thoughts.
Basically, no matter his flaws and strengths, Burke was a high-profile GM and hockey personality, and he added relevance to the Anaheim Ducks. His coming to SoCal legitimized the franchise and fixed its focus on winning, and without that, the team's fortunes could have gone in a very different direction -- probably one without a Stanley Cup. There's definitely been some baggage to Brian Burke, but the upside has been pretty spectacular.
* * *
Yes, the Leafs are winless, and yes, just like Tom Benjamin this past weekend, that scares the living bejeezus out of me. The last three games the Leafs have played, they've scored only one goal despite launching over 30 SOG in each game. The last time the Ducks had three consecutive games with 30 SOG was last March.
Brediction: Brian Burke buys Barstool Bob a big beer.
Go Ducks.
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The last three games the Leafs have played, they’ve scored only one goal despite launching over 30 SOG in each game. The last time the Ducks had three consecutive games with 30 SOG was last March.
you know what sucks? being worried about this game. If we lose, it will hurt ….very……very bad.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we lose, it will hurt ….very……very bad.
When we lose, dude. When we lose.
And yeah, the losses do suck, but I’m starting to get a bit jaded — it’s hurting a little less each time. And as much as the “winless” part of the Leafs adds to the story, personally I always get angrier losing to a western team than to an eastern team. At least when we lose to an eastern team the two points don’t propel a team on our standings board.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half my family lives in Toronto. I have been giving them shit for a few years now, about how well the Leafs have been playing.
I need this win on a personal level.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yeah, the losses do suck, but I’m starting to get a bit jaded — it’s hurting a little less each time.
You know, I’ve noticed that too. God, that’s sad.
Good luck tu madre. I think we’ll pull it off tonight. I think in the last game our team was starting to wake up.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally, there’s an outside chance that I might be at tonight’s game.
An out-of-town blogger, who at this point shall remain nameless, invited me to this game three weeks ago, and when I said I was up for it, sent me this follow-up:
Awesome. I’ll have more details later.
I haven’t heard from the blogger ever since.
So we’ll see — I’d guess probably not, but if I do get an affirmative reply to today’s query, I’ll probably be in the nosebleeds.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good luck to you on that.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, but honestly, I’m torn. I wouldn’t mind saving Honda Center Spending Money for later in the season when positive results seem a bit more likely.
And good luck to you with the Toronto relatives — I don’t make signs, but if I did, today’s would read “Do it for Tu Madre”.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, thanks man. that sign would be funny.
thanks to you to john.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH, it would be exciting if you were there nose-bleeding it with us tonight!
Tonight, the ladies of BoC are taking over the Honda Center – well, I guess you can’t say “take over”, but we’ll be there! Grace is my guest tonight, so it should be fun times!
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gals gotta take a pic…hold a sign that says i love Boc and have someone take your pic…try to be drunk when u do it….tee-hee
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
try to be drunk when u do it
The only real way to capture the true BOC essence. =P
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just hoping we can SMILE while we’re there!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hence the drinking..it will make u smile regardless
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or vomiting. Depending on if you drink like champions or not. =P
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very sexy….vomiting women
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I saw a punk band named that once.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s possible that terrible play will cause vomiting. I sure hope not.
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve been to a fashion show that should’ve been named that
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Girls, 1 Stanley Cup?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 26, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grace (who’s totally awesome, btw) and I are checking in and saying HI from HC! :)
GO DUCKS!!!
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 6:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, snag a sheep coupon while you’re up there!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Goldie’s Poopons? Nope, not tonight. But we did score free tacos. Which is almost funny, if it weren’t so terribly sad.
by g r a c e on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, how ironic that we did manage to kill one of the many millions of power plays?
I don’t think it really happened…they just felt bad for us.
Or they’re worried they printed too many coupons and don’t want to be harmful to the environment.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Goldie’s Poopons? Nope, not tonight. But we did score free tacos
There’s a Del Taco near my work. I used to go there every once in awhile. Now, I fucking hate Del Taco. Every bite would just be a bitter reminder or the terrible play that followed every time I saw that stupid Del Taco logo on screen.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanted to add that SK is way cool. And generous, too. We got on like a house on fire and, except for the fact that we were at the game, had a great time.
by g r a c e on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must say, the company was awesome!
Thanks so much for joining me…and yay for successful internet friendships! :)
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH, it would be exciting if you were there nose-bleeding it with us tonight!
No word yet — at this point, I’d call it unlikely. More fodder for the “blogger = slacker” stereotype, which unfortunately I’m a big promoter of.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap. I had to re-write some of this post — I got a bit confused. Sergei Fedorov got traded after playing only five games, but some of that was injury-related. He was traded after the Ducks had played 18 games.
See? I need blog archives to keep my head together.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So maybe here’s the question. Both the 05-06 and the 09-10 Ducks started their seasons 3-5-1. The 05-06 Ducks then won their next four games, but were winless over the following five — and that’s when Burkie traded away Fedorov.
If the Ducks are so-so over their next nine games, (a) will Bob Murray similarly make a Fedorov-level trade to shake up the team?, and (b) who would be this year’s version of Sergei Fedorov?
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good questions. I’m not sure he would get rid of any of the new players that were just added to our roster. Maybe Bobby Ryan?
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be — he’s getting his raise soon and has way underproduced — 1 g, 1 a. But I’m not sure he’s at a peak — I was thinking possibly Corey Perry might be a candidate.
That’s salary out the door, and would definitely be a wake-up smack in the face.
Not sure Barstool Bob is as reactionary as Burke, though — he did a lot last trade deadline, but that was largely because of all the expiring contracts.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of Perry too. But out of those three forwards (Perry, Getzlaf, and Ryan), Perry shows the most life. So possibly Getzlaf? I know whoever we were to trade would probably score like 90 goals that season, just to shove it down our throats.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of this…“what big name forward would we trade?” is making me sick!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A start like this begs the talk, though — I’d much rather be talking about on-ice success, but unfortunately Rudy Kelly covers the Kings, not me.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
man its “kick in the balls” city
trade big 3 talk….kings winning..fuck..
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least the Red Wings are doing sub par.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea there is that…
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, you guys are throwing around trading the top line? Sounds like Fear The Fin in here.
Have they really been that bad this season? I’m going to need to catch some more Ducks games.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The short answer is YES
The long answer is YES, really bad.
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt, it could be worse. What really makes us question our team though is that fact that when they lose, they lose BIG. When they’ve lost, aside from the most recent Blue Jackets game, they’ve been absolutely dominated by the other team.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have they really been that bad this season?
I think so, but I should caveat — I didn’t watch the game we lost 5-0 to the Blues.
It’s not a problem with the top line per se — it’s not like we’ve forgotten last spring, nor that they’ve started as invisibly as last year. But the team overall has been miserable in a lot of areas — shot-wise, goal-wise, effort-wise, smartness-wise — I’d need to start writing longer posts to really list it all.
That all said, the Getzlaf line isn’t really holding its head above water, either.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't really put your finger on it because
it’s the Pronger curse.
plain and simple. They look better on paper, they should be playing better, they charge back to tie a game only to have the swiss cheese goalie pull his groin and let in a 75 footer.
I’m tellin ya, it’s the curse.
by Mike in OC on Oct 26, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a little different because Fedorov was locked up forever. Bryan Murray spent Kariya’s entire qualifying offer there. Perry’s still affordable at his price. Jiggy’s the only seriously overpriced contract we have, and I don’t know if that would shake things up.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, for certain Perry’s affordable — under last year’s circumstances, his contract looks great. But when a team gets awful results, there probably needs to be a focus shift — affordability is nice, but it won’t get people out to the Pond. As it stands, the performances are driving fans away — trading a good contract sucks, but if you can’t generate wins, the rules change, I think.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but in the NHL, the coach usually suffers first to wake the players up. It’s never the right move, but somehow it’s always the first move
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely, and with so many Bylsma or Sacco or Boudreau stories out there, it’s tough to argue that it doesn’t make an impact, no matter how unfair it is.
I’m still shocked at the stat I heard that Carlyle is the third-longest tenured coach in the league. He’s earned that, but man — he’s not connected well so far with this roster, no matter who’s fault that is.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh, I like that you put up two former Ducks as your examples. No doubt they’d feel it if they lost Carlyle. Niedermayer seemed to feel letting down Sbisa. But yeah, if Murray spares Carlyle, he’ll have to make a roster move to shake things up.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but don’t you think maybe this team is not built to fit RC’s system? He shuts it all down, and this team is built to open it up.
by Mike in OC on Oct 26, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should hire Marc Crawford.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 26, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that’s something 2/3rd of Californian teams can get behind.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Crawford’s team is doing better than Carlyle’s. And he’s done it w/ out Modano and Richards (for some games).
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s tough to peg hockey coaches the way that say football coaches are pegged. You have your Lemaires, but someone like Lindy Ruff kept his job by adapting to different lineups. If Murray fires him, it won’t be because his philosophies stopped matching, it will be because the players aren’t listening to him, and there’s enough talent for another coach to maybe salvage the season. That’s why Melrose was fired again
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then the question becomes, can Carlyle adapt to different lineups, like Ruff? I haven’t seen much Ducks hockey this year, only 1 or 2 games I think, so I don’t know that I could say anything there, but that seems like something the front office would have to remedy, if they think that is the case.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he definitely has philosophies for his defensemen; I guess he can adjust those, but they’re very conservative. For his forwards, he definitely likes power forward play, but he kind of just juggles the lineups and waits for something to happen. It’s very laissez-faire. And despite the talent in this group, they’re not faire-ing very much. It’s tough because I really don’t think GM’s think about blaming the coach until they don’t see the effort on the ice from the players. Short of that, they give the coaches a pretty long leash.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s very laissez-faire. And despite the talent in this group, they’re not faire-ing very much.
Excellent — Sleek-endorsed pun.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Which I guess should actually go to Art, who actually made the joke, but I wanted to express my agreement with you. So I guess I’ll +1 Art now too.
I should just shut up.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually am against the whole “hang the coach” philosophy too. Far too often, the coach gets the axe when the problem exists on the players, and I don’t like that. Especially given the job that Carlyle has done for the last couple years, I have a hard time seeing it being right to give him the axe.
Of course, the thing is, if Carlyle CANT or WONT go to another style for this Ducks team, then that brings up two questions: 1) Why did management build such a team and give it to Carlyle to make it work, if he couldn’t/wouldn’t do so, and 2) is it not just better than to give him the axe and give him a chance to move on and be successful somewhere else?
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Earl’s post it’s apparent that Carlyle was hired with Barstool involved with the organization, but I doubt he had much (if any) say in the matter.
New GM’s usually like to put their stamp on the team from the get go. Maybe that means a shorter leash for Carlyle if Murray thinks the team needs a shake up?
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is, Carlyle’s nine games into a three-year extension.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s where my lack of knowledge about the Anaheim Ducks is exposed.
Doesn’t make much sense to give him the ax if that’s the case.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, I was just about to ask 3 posts up about what his contract status was.
That makes question #1 (Why build a team like this and give it to a coach who does things entirely different) even bigger, and would seem to point to a fuck-up within the front office, if such is actually the problem, with regards to Carlyle and adjusting styles.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got a question for you. Who would you get rid of, if you could get rid of any one player?
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giguere — easy.
After that’s a little tricky — I suppose the money answer is Whitney, but I’m still not nearly as quick to hate the guy as some. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind a team without Eminger — sure he’s cheap, but I don’t know that I’ve seen enough out of him to gain any comfort when he’s on the ice.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I barely even notice Eminger when he plays. I feel kind of bad for Giguere. He used to be great and part of me want’s the believe that he can find that again. I’m not as quick to hate Whitney either. I think at some point he’ll be a solid offensive defensemen for us.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you count technicalities, the real salary I’d dump first is the $1.33M we’re paying to Todd Goddamn Bertuzzi.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I third the Whitney sentiments. Once he gets his shot together and finds the right partner, I think he’ll be solid. But his salary is backloaded, so I’ll be (unreasonably) expecting improvement up to the 5.5M level.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See? I need blog archives to keep my head together.
It’s sad, but more than 50% of the reason I blog — in any arena — is the convenience of being able to go back and check what the hell I was thinking. Otherwise, I don’t even know who I was anymore.
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by Dominik on Oct 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I AGREE if we lose today…the Boc commentors will demand ptchfork and torches style a “Art of suicide” cartoon
i will organize everyone to mass email sleek until he posts…ok no i wont..but trying to make the point
I dont think we will..the ducks just gotta play like the first period of last game and theyll be fine..
im actually a little more optomistic than sleek..and think a turnaround is possible..my worry is they get start rolling a week too late…well c
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what makes me feel better after losing? Putting NHL10 on rookie and beating the shit out of the team that just beat us. It’s kind of childish, but what ever.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with that :)
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knocked Dan Boyle out for a month with a hip check the other day. It was actually pretty realistic because right after that my character logged onto his computer and read 10+ pages of whining about how I should be suspended.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 26, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(glares @ you) … you aren’t very funny at times Rudy dear
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im actually a little more optomistic than sleek..and think a turnaround is possible..
Sure it’s possible, probably even likely — but man, I don’t know what there is to prove against the Leafs tonight — there’s no good outcome. Either we beat the bottom-most team in the league (shrug) or we essentially become it.
And hey, last post was all about possible turnaround.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The weird thing is that you’re going up against a team that’s 0-7-1. And you’re feeling nervous about the game.
It would be crazy if the Leafs got their first win of the season against Burke’s former team. But considering the way the Ducks have played so far this season, it wouldn’t surprise me.
That being said, I’ll be extremely disappointed if the Ducks lose. As much as I dislike the Ducks, seeing the Leafs suck so much is hilarious, and I want to see them suck some more………. that sounded really wrong, but I think I’ve made my point.
Go Ducks!!
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The weird thing is that you’re going up against a team that’s 0-7-1. And you’re feeling nervous about the game.
Nervous? I’m terrified!
At this point, I’d rather the Ducks be facing a bunch of 7-1-0 giants — at least those losses are to be expected. Putting the Ducks up against an “easy” opponent now is a recipe for disaster.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it gets worse….aaaahhhhhh….
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nervous? I’m terrified!
Same here. It’s like a win or go home playoff game…
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t go that far — I have a block in my brain that prevents me from associating Leafs games with “playoff atmosphere”.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m wondering if you aren’t going to develop that same block with the Ducks this year too.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose when the place gets flooded with Sharks fans or Kings fans, at least a full house might trick me.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great write up
But I think you should have passed along the fact that Burke also inherited McNab. Burke put a lot of faith in McNab’s word and work, maybe as much as the early Disney days, and that led to the emergence of Kunitz and Penner and even the addition of Carter and Shannon as role players. Granted by letting go of Rucchin, Leclerc and Salei, he cast doubt on McNab’s actual draft decisions, but he definitely had faith in him as an NCAA scout.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For sure — inheriting Dave McNab and Francois Allaire was huge for Burke.
And I rather enjoyed this trip-through-history exercise. I found that there were a few players that I’d always blamed Burke for getting rid of (Niclas Havelid, notably) that were gone before he’d arrived. Sorry, Burkie — that was one name I’ve thrown around a lot as partial evidence of your racism — now I’m using a slightly smaller list of names. :)
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never really thought he had a problem with Swedish players. He maybe gave up on Holmqvist, but he held on to Pahlsson, and also Hedstrom for an entire season. Nothing as bad as trading Sykora and Fedorov for whatever their new GM’s had in their pockets at the time, and then saying it was an “attitude” issue with both of them.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I never include Hedstrom in my Burke rants — Hedstrom jilted us.
But it’s been a great omen for the Ducks when Swedes get sick of the postseason and leave early. When Kjellberg left the Mighty Ducks after two rounds in ’03, Giguere posted back-to-back-to-back shutouts. When Hedstrom took off in ’06, Bryzgalov had back-to-back-to-back shutouts.
Ducks should sign a flaky Swede just for karmic purposes.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We drafted a lot of Swedes after Holmqvist, and only Havelid panned out. If they had just played to the point where they were sign-able, they all could have flaked on us and we’d be swimming in karma.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went on a date to Disneyland a few years ago and I think I lost my chance when I got really pissed that Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride was closed for service.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 26, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I haven’t been to Disneyland in a sinful amount of time, given I’ve lived right near it forever. Last time I went was in 1995, when California Adventure was a parking lot, and I rode the People Mover like 10 straight times.
But yeah, Mr. Toad does have some fond kid memories to it. I’d definitely get pissed if it was closed on whatever day I go back.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed it, I guess, but George Parros did update his blog before the Columbus game — some stuff about him and B-Ry going to military camp or something.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, a very random question for readers — the Center Ice free preview is over, right? Because the one time I tried to order it through my cable company’s website, it didn’t seem to work, and yet TV-wise I’m still getting the channels.
Either (a) they automatically renewed me from last season’s order, (b) Center Ice forgot to hit their “off” switch, or © I’m a lucky bastard.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i was getting it too, they alwaysgive it for free until the first ducks game is blacked out (or at least that’s what it seems like)
by Mike in OC on Oct 26, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They automatically renew you, I think- that’s what happened to me this year. I got a letter in the mail saying something to the effect of, “If you don’t want the package this season call this number to cancel.”
Now I may have a different cable provider than you (Cox Communications), but maybe that’s a general principle companies hold when it comes to packages such as Center Ice.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s very plausible — I do have Cox, though before my move a year ago I had Time Warner, and every year I had to make an annual dreaded call to explain to some clerk that yes, they do in fact have a service called “NHL Center Ice”, and yes, I’d like to order it.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also: I’m horrible at checking the mail.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s just a Cox policy then. Makes sense from a revenue standpoint because once you get a taste it’s a helluva lot harder to call and cancel.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I’m complaining. Saved me ten minutes out of my day.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Time Warner, you’re lucky if that call lasted less than an hour.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes. I guess the rumors of Ted Turner being an avid marijuana smoker apply to his employees as well.
Lazy hippies!
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily laziness — there’s just additional steps required, like explaining what “NHL” stands for and why a person would pay for then watch it.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never ordered Center Ice
and I’m still enjoying the free preview programming. Please let that off switch be broken
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t want to jinx anything, but if things go south here’s a website that does a pretty good job of providing a feed for nearly every game.
The visual quality is pretty good too.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome. Thanks Plank.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m getting it free. And loving it.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although I’m starting to get used to losing, I think I’m going to have to cry if we loose to the worst team in hockey.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the Transitive Property would then make us the worst team in hockey.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since you’re talking about Carlyle’s job security, losing to the Leafs has a history of getting coaches canned before the next game. Didn’t that happen three or so times last season?
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s right — definitely happened twice, and I don’t pay great attention to that east coast. Three times is very possible.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think you’re right- Therrien and Renney. Didn’t see a third name during a brief internet search.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, just learned this is the worst start in the HISTORY of the Leafs. Didn’t know that. If we lose to the worst Leafs team EVER, everyone should be fired. Barstool should resign on principle.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking News!
Not officially announced yet, but the next NHL entry draft will be hosted in Los Angeles.
Not to be a naysayer, but (as I texted to Rudy) wouldn’t it be a nice BoC coup if the Ducks had the first overall pick? Could be a pivotal battle for the fate of that pick tonight!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit! I’m really down to go to this if anyone else is interested.
Fear The Fin: Where Selling Your Soul Is The Likely Solution
by Mr. Plank on Oct 26, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since I’m such a private-conversation publisher, here’s the text for your bemusement.
Me: Dude, L.A. is hosting the next entry draft? Maybe the Ducks will get first pick!
Rudy: Really? That actually sucks because that means we might have to do real journalism.
Me: Screw that. I’m chilling nonstop at the media bar. Wait, what?
Rudy: I would spend the whole time telling Dean to draft me.
Me: B. Burke would overhear and trade up to snag you as Schenn revenge. He’s blindly ruthless.
Rudy: I think I could step in and be an improvement over Vesa at least.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t I actually post that RK would be a better goalie than half the goalies in the 80’s in the previous discussion about Wayne Gretzky? I don’t know if I actually said that, but I thought about it.
Interesting fact: RK is older than me I believe, and this year I finally lost my NHL draft eligibility. RK and I are both UFA’s, which means Dean-O can sign him immediately!
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a robery by Gustovson.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Whew, how did EC not pot that? And then even more crazy — how the heck did Boynton get back in time on J-Blake?
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He got the angle on him, hockey trigonometry.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 26, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stajan goes silly on Marchant — that’s the upside to playing against B. Burke.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m still laughing about Orr knocking that linesman down. That was hilarious.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 7:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nickelodeon! On a good-looking play, too!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And even weirder — Hayward presents an opposition-friendly point-of-view!
Up is down!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you really going to call him Nickelodeon all season long?
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, unless you’ve got a better alternative.
In the third period and overtime, I could use “Nick at Nite”.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was calling him Nintendo for awhile, but yours is better.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 7:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, Frenchie — only you could get the whole top line running around in blind anger.
Welcome back, Beauch.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perry with a cheap shot on a charging Hagman — that always takes things up a notch.
Worst power play of the season thus far?
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looks like a gay porn when they play that slow motion footage of Perry on top of Stajan.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Lord help us. 3 and a half minutes of our putrid penalty kill.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2 minutes of 3-on-5?
See, Burke? We are tougher! (sigh).
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is gonna be ugly
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. Formula for winning quickly thrown out the window. All started by a Leafs bench minor.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugliness continues
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the first period — I think the Ducks must run bag skates if they dare end it ahead.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt be surprised if that was true
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Hiller needs to get that. I really believe in him, and he’s kinda lettin me down.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
General note to Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, etc.
Your antics of being the “toughest” guys on the ice no matter what the scoreboard says was cute back when this team was getting wins. Less cute these days.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should add — make sure your stickblades are legal this game, Selanne — no need to help Ron Wilson put us shorthanded even more.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea im sure burke got a kick out of that
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why did it feel like it was inevitable…that thyey would score twice on that…
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s the thing about curses — maybe Perry needs to be sent down to Lethridge to let out some of that juvenile energy.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the grace and sk at the game karma isnt working yet
maybe it explodes in the 2nd period
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sooooooo…yea.
We’re hoping for a POSITIVE explosion in the 2nd.
We’re not holding our breaths.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 26, 2009 8:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
lets shoot for 3-1…thanks nokelinin
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Del Taco is really going to clean up on advertising tonight.
“Sorry coach! Left the brain at home today!”
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if its good advertising. The PK is sucking something awful tonight. I’m really starting to hate Del Taco.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 7:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well fuck if I know who sponsors our power play — they’re probably demanding a refund.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fact, if Ducks ad-salesmen were smart, they’d divvy up the penalty kills. Give Del Taco the hooks and slashes, let Burger King take the goalie interferences and the boards/charges, Pizza Hut can take bench minors and unsportsmanlikes, and Jamba Juice should take the leftovers.
Gold, Jerry! Pure gold!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hehe
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figures — they don’t have nearly the marketing savvy of a big chain like Del Taco.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
some fun news from ahlers..toronto hasnt lead since opening nite…good for us ducks to break that streak!!
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, we’re breaking streaks for them tonight, I’m sure — they’re probably not used to having so much more power play time vs. shorthanded time.
“Huh, I thought we’d have to step up for our first win, not just show up.”
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shots in the first period: Leafs 19, Ducks 10.
Thanks for letting us know you guys have been talking about being prepared, Lupul!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were prespared all right ..to give toronto its first vicotory!!!..all right mang!!
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
awwwwww
I would be sympathetic … but my oldest just told me I am heartless … caused I laughed at him having to walk from one train station to the next today … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u just reminded me of somthing…my spirits are starting to rise a little bit
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha ha!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mirtle posted a quote from the Toronto Sun today, Toronto has had the lead for something like 6 and a half minutes so far… ALL SEASON.
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by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add 4:10 to that so far.
I like how they’re asking the cast of “Cold Case” to solve the mystery of the Ducks’ losing woes.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now it’s been 11 or so minutes that they’ve been leading.
Since Hagman’s goal? The Ducks have one shot on goal — the Ryan shot that Hayward gushed about for several minutes.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hayward claims scoring chances in this game are “dead even”. I must have missed our two minute 5-on-3.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dumb ass..he also said gustavson has been good has been tested…on 10 shots? u dumb fuck
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, he did have to wake up on time — that’s kind of being tested.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of tested..how bout testing our great pk again woot woot!!
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another game where I’m thanking fate that my free ticket fell through.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hot dawg!!!
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck! Alright already! I’ll get some Del Taco!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
when u go earl “go bold” and get del scorcho instead of mild sauce
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are really killing them at even-strength, though. They’ll probably not even celebrate after this win because of it.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?! You would think if the penalty kill sucked they would stop taking penalties!
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
They’re probably auditioning for future jobs — they heard Burkie was in the house.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, Carlyle should really forbid the Ducks from taking penalties.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is absolutely nothing in Carlyle’s entire Ducks coaching career that suggests he has the least amount of ability to forbid that.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if anything … he probably encourages it … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u think gayward could cream over gustavsson anymore?
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not without getting fined by the league.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Teemu — you should probably get in a fight.
That actually might get me to come to the next game.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So let’s hope that this power play doesn’t somehow result in us killing off a two-minute 3-on-5.
You know, like last chance.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much improved! Nice, B-Ry.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah it was, great play.
http://sacrificethebody.blogspot.com/
Sacrifice the Body - Examining the NHL through statistical analysis, reasoned thought, and blind conjecture.
by IAmJoe on Oct 26, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like a set play…maybe they actually learned somthing…
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Such a sweet shot by Bobby Ryan. Gotta imagine that Burke tabs him for Team USA right?
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure — I’d assume he’s a lock with limited options, but if he was Canadian, he’d be playing his way off the team.
Not even sure if Getzlaf is a lock anymore — I wouldn’t mind terribly. Seems we’ll need him rested down the stretch.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team Canada is a whole other animal. It’s extremely difficult for any 2nd year player to crack that squad. I don’t even know if he’d be much of an option for them, so I’m not sure he’d even be playing his way off; he probably would have to have an amazing first half to even really be considered for that team. But Team USA… they’re going to need him. I’d love to see him lined up next to Statsny.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hagman nearly unleashes the hats. Thanks, post.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Hiller. Not a strong game from him today. Goaltending in the NHL can be such a fickle thing.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but it’s all just chip out and pray — Ducks in their “must win” period have shot once so far.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the Ducks look even worse than they did against DAL the other night, and that was bad.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then try to overcompensate on the “tough guy” end of things — hugely pathetic, hugely stupid
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. But that right there was a terrible PIM call.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t really matter, though — the fact that we’ve put ourselves in such dire situations, plus set plenty of precedent — we didn’t lose the game on that call, not by a long fucking shot.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no indeed. This has been a pretty terrible performance.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i thought all that shit would make me feel better..but it doesnt..i find it stupid too
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough, that sounds like the story of TOR’s season.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, so much for fight. Koivu clears to a Leafs player, they re-enter, recover, and finish.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is fucking depressing.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Still tied at evens!
(sigh)
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on now … where is all your positive attitude? this is the Ducks we are talking bout … you know they will turn things around and give everyone a headache like always
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That worked in the radio-only days of preseason — unfortunately these days I’m kind of “eyes open” to this horror.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the season is still early … plenty of time to turn things around
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Earl, who do you think we should pick with our first overall pick at the next draft?
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here — there’s still that pesky lottery to contend with.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice. And don’t think the Isles won’t have something to say about that. TOR could even add insult to injury by snaking that number 1 pick after beating up on you guys like this.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its been said before and I will say it again. A loss to Toronto tonight means that it is time to start look at how to improve the team for next season. I’m just trying to be optimistic for next year.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s probably an overreaction in itself, but given the body of work so far ANA needs to change some things. Whether it’s the coach or personnel I don’t know, but they really haven’t been very good so far.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know its an overreaction. Part of me even guessed that we would completely embarrass ourselves and loss to the Leafs.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Caps have a well-entrenched habit of crapping the bed against bad teams. It’s infuriating. It’s like if they don’t think you are a Cup contender you aren’t worth their effort. That’s how they almost lost to NYI the other day.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I wish we had the Caps’ problems.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I wish we had a Cup banner in our rafters.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this sucks. the other side od the family has alreardy started calling. well atleast alcohol hasnt let me down.
cheers to you………i guess.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im watching this sober….can u belive it…
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry man. I’m about to do another beer run. insult to injury.salt in the wound. a big fat dick in my ass. fuuuuuckk
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea im on some pills..that will make my stomach bleed it says if i drink..im a gamer..but that doesnt sound good
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hats off for Hagman.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Think of tonight as suicide prevention, Ducks fans
Imagine all those lives being saved as disgrunteled Maple Leaf fans from all over southern Ontario climb in off the ledge…. Trust me, a Wild fan ought to know that feeling this season ;)
And, from what I’ve seen here in the 3rd, the NHL is doing everything they can to make sure it happens.
Let's Go Wild!
by redheadzeb on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
speaking of that..i belive a cartoon is in order earl
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draw it, man — I can’t put in more effort than the team I cover.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
aint that the sad truth…recycle the old one if u have to
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But erase some of the key parts and replace them with something of far less quality.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
much needed my friend…
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
We need one of those for Minnesota… If only we knew what a “Wild” was?
Let's Go Wild!
by redheadzeb on Oct 26, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my youngest was asking me that the other day … I didn’t have an answer for him
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could help. When I’m asked, I just let the children know it is an “abstract” and that they will learn all about that in college.
“Boy, there is a time and a place for everything. And that place is COLLEGE.” —Homer Simpson
Let's Go Wild!
by redheadzeb on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t use this helpful image? Particularly useful for kids.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s genius.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I will now, thanks :)
Let's Go Wild!
by redheadzeb on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
muhahahahaha….damn sleek your really coming thru in cheering me up…remind me to buy u a shot when i see you
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey barstool bob what are thinking at this very moment?
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“Why the fuck did somebody bolt down all the goddamn seats in this arena?!”
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Welp, better head home to work on the ole resume.”
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Play of the Game is a fight? Man, that’s just denial.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA....
Oh, I apologize, that was terribly inappropriate. Hehe.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 26, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RUDY!!!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, now that even sounds desperate.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
may be desperate but fuck onyl thing we got right now
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
now see what you’ve done!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's respectable!
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool a goal. Not that it matters though.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cut the music…maybe if we score 2 more then que the music
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i get it..hayward belives if she suck gustavssons dick hard enough..the ducks will score more goals
heyward is making his contribution
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what Heyward does to make the Ducks look better. He always compliments the opposing goalie and the implication is that the other team would be losing to the vastly superior Ducks if their goaltender wasn’t bailing them out.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 26, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And after he gets turned down by chicks he goes and tells his buddies how awesome her boyfriend is.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats funny is more often than not its the opposing team backup goaltender…and heyward is still rubbing his balls all over the guy…
but yea your pretty much nailed it rudy
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s three posts and Bobby Ryan’s near miss, all this period. As terrible as ANA has been they could easily be tied or winning now.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How comforting to know we were only a handful of bounces from competing with the last winless team in the league.
And to think, I was worried.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahah…fuck i really needed that laugh
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
see! positive thinking … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ducks live next!!!! o fuck yea!!! i gotta watch that!!!!
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How is Kaberle “player of the game”? I understand all the assists, but what about Hagman’s hat trick?
It’s like if you win 6-0, a player gets a hat trick, and the goalie makes 26 saves. The shutout is nice, but fact of the matter is the goalie could’ve sucked and you’d still win the game.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I’m going to have to cry myself to sleep.
by yankeeken on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think im gonna take a hammer to tmy own face and knock myself to sleep
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
awwww don’t damage yourself
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I fucking laughed pretty hard at that. Rec’d.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a little aggrivated right now. I say we trade for Avery, Steve Ott, Donald Brasear, and what the hell, we get Bert back. We won’t win, but we’ll be the most annoying group of assholes in the NHL. At least I can take comfort in that. Anyone else have any ideas for my team of a holes? I may make this happen in NHL10 just to see what happens.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i think we got a team of assholes now
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed out loud at this. That is hysterical.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did too and i wrote it
was surprised i didnt get more comments like yours
but fuck i like the fact i can amuse myself
a self-jester if you will
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking I’ll throw Derek Boogard in to my mix of dicks. He seems to like to hurt people and he’s just generally a douche.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chelios might be interested.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring Pierre MacGuire in as an assistant coach to put the cherry on top. Most hated team ever.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He signed with the Chicago Wolves, the Thrashers’ AHL affiliate. I believe it’s an independent contract, and can’t be called up to the Thrashers, because frankly that wouldn’t make sense. But seems like he’s off the market.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ll call him up and dare anybody to claim him off waivers — I’m not that worried about his demand at this stage of his career.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to call him up. He doesn’t have an NHL contract. ANA could sign him today and have him at the next practice.
If consequences dictate the course of action, then it doesn't matter what's right, it's only wrong if you get caught. If consequences dictate the course of action, then I should play God...
by Fehr and Balanced on Oct 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless he signed the AHL contract because he’s too old and invalid (first def.) to be on an NHL roster. But what do you have to lose? It’s only money, right?
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I can draft him, I’m signing Chelios. How the hell could I forget him? Thanks. =)
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what that lucky charms barstool throwing mofo gm is gonna do…but hes gonna earn that paycheck…i dont even know where to start…
what the fuck happen to our goaltending? i dotn remember a year with so many soft goals
allaire? the d?
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not complaining about goaltending, no matter what Hayward says.
Hiller gives up three 3-on-5 goals, one 3-on-4 goal, one 4-on-5 goal, and one 5-on-5 goal and somehow he’s to blame?
Fuck that.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im incoherrant right now
I have a mancrush on Mikkelson..I want to snuggle with him at nite
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hiller gives up three 3-on-5 goals, one 3-on-4 goal, one 4-on-5 goal, and one 5-on-5 goal and somehow he’s to blame?
I looked at the boxscore again today — apparently the Leafs scored their 4-on-3 goal with the goalie pulled, so essentially that was four 5-on-3 goals surrendered yesterday.
I’m guessing we’ll hear a lot about how they “addressed this in practice” and “talked extensively about preparation”. Guess what, Ducks? That’s not comforting any more!
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s really not comforting when they all keep saying the same thing…
We need to change. We need to work harder out of the gate. We’re not commiting ourselves to 60 minutes.
If you know what the problem is, then why don’t you fucking fix it?
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes no comfort…especally now the kings are doing well..i can find comfort anywhere
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And almost all of the rebound goals, I’ve noticed the team attacking has like 30 minutes to look at the puck see that it’s a rebound, look around, check the wind resistance, shrug and shoot the puck in to the net. Nobody even so much as touches them or the puck. It’s almost like I’m seeing it happen in slow motion, but the only players moving in slow motion are the Ducks.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, 1-5-0 at home? The Ducks have one of the more intimidating home arenas in the league, in my opinion, so this is the most surprising number.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And we barely hung on for that one win. Against the Wild.
Frankly, the record flatters us.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give the Ducks some credit, because of their schedule:
vs SJ
@ MIN
@ BOS
@ PHI
@ NYR
vs MIN
vs STL
vs DAL
vs CBJ
vs TOR
10 games, and 6 are against playoff teams from last year. Three are against the Wild and Stars, who were playoff teams two years ago and fought hard for a spot last year. They’ve had a tough schedule, but that’s what the NHL is going for with the salary cap. They want more parity between the teams that make the playoffs as the 6-8 seeds and the 9-12 seeds.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not about record — they’ve just looked awful and manufactured ways to lose. I can overlook record if they looked competent on the ice.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, 27 goals against to only 13 goals scored. In six games, that’s an average of 4.5-2.2. I don’t know if it’s so much as a post-Pronger curse. I just think the team’s defense has a huge hole without Pronger.
But even then, Hiller and Giguere should both be playing much better than they really are. The only two games I’ve seen are the 5-0 loss to the Blues and tonight’s (you can thank the Redskins for that one). They just didn’t look like they were playing the same game as their opponents. And that’s something I’ve seen many times over the past three years at Kings games.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
Get out of LA and never come back. Or sign with Anaheim... PLEASE??
by Kevin Y on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But even then, Hiller and Giguere should both be playing much better than they really are.
Perhaps, but the team in front of them is blowing it — outshot all the time, penalized like crazy. There’s been very good stretches of goaltending, and it’s still not keeping us competitive in games.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
metamorphise near first to last. how fucking ironic. the booze is talking, but fuck. toronto 6 goals. wtf.
hooked on quack
by tu madre on Oct 26, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
im so jealous…that should be me!!!
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I feel rotten
I was catching up with a buddy of mine this morning, who’s mildly a Ducks fan, and I caught him up on some of the awful games he’d been missing. I think I genuinely spoiled his day.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
People keep asking me what the problem is with the team.
I just keep giving them the same worldess response.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“They got no shaolin.”
That usually prevents follow-up questions.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People keep asking me what the problem is with the team.
I’m the resident Ducks fan of our office and I get that all day. I’ve been going with “They’re sucking” response. I have been tempted to say “Go fuck yourself.” a couple of times, I’m not gonna lie.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t know how many more games can go on before the crowd starts innovating a “Ducks You Suck” chant.
Two, maybe?
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The issue in my office is for people to be supportive of the Kings…without having ever watched a game of hockey before in their life.
So, sure enough they make their comments because they see the recaps in the news or the papers, but they have NO IDEA what’s really going on.
Nor can they name anyone on the team. It’s kinda SUPER annoying.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, even artificial hockey fans is a change of pace. Who knows? Maybe this flipflop gets them invested.
Man, it’s tougher and tougher to come up with upside.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t know how many more games can go on before the crowd starts innovating a "Ducks You Suck" chant.
I’m thinking like 5 or 6. It’s Anaheim, remember? They’ll stop going to the game before anything else.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true, and very evident last night. There were LARGE sections of seats empty.
Whatever, it makes my view of the ice that much better…not that watching is any fun right now as it is.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true, and very evident last night. There were LARGE sections of seats empty.
Man, I sometimes hate our fans are like that. That sucks.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
socal as a whole:
what your not winning? fuck you im gonna go spend my money elsewhere in the land of a million things to do
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s shitty. I mean, Kings seem to do ok. Even when they aren’t doing so great. So do the Clippers. It would be good to sell out a house every night and have our fans show support, regardless of team performance. I know no matter how many games we lose, I’ll always go to the games and rock my Ducks jersey while I’m there.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll be happy to know Grace and I stayed in our seats until the very final horn.
I never leave early.
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll be happy to know Grace and I stayed in our seats until the very final horn.
I never leave early.
Nice work ladies. That’s what I like to hear. =)
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be good to sell out a house every night and have our fans show support, regardless of team performance.
Really? I don’t even know how to tell fans to go to the Honda Center this season.
They’ve played six home games, and probably put in good efforts in 80 minutes over that span. I don’t blame fans one bit.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I don’t even know how to tell fans to go to the Honda Center this season.
They’ve played six home games, and probably put in good efforts in 80 minutes over that span. I don’t blame fans one bit.
I would rather have an arena of booing fans at the home team, then an empty arena.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but at what prices? I can boo at home for free.
18 periods played at home, the Ducks have outscored their opposition in precisely 3 of them, and have been outscored in 11.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally understand the logic of it. I can understand people not wanting to pay to see their team lose, but just a preference thing I guess. When I went to Buffalo last season to see the Ducks play the Sabres it was great. The team wasn’t doing so great, but they sold out and the crowd sort of had this “We’re all in this together” mentality.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on your budget..if your tight..then u gotta spend your money more wisely..if budget isnt a proble or u got season tix..then yea..be a diehard and make every game…i would
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to a game next week against the Penguins — looking forward to the shortened lines.
Which probably won’t be that short — fans will probably come to see a cup champ.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
depending on how the next game goes, you might want to bring a brown paper bag to that game.
I heard MANY people discussing this while on their way out (early departures of course)
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to a game next week against the Penguins
I’m actually going to the Kings vs Penguins game next Thursday at Staples Center. I’m still on my mission to see a hockey game in every arena and I figured the fact that I’ve seen games in three different arenas and none of them have been at the Staples center when I live like half an hour from it is kind of pathetic. Really looking forward to some of them, not so much Detroit. I hate the Red Wings and I don’t want to get shot.
Which probably won’t be that short — fans will probably come to see a cup champ.
That’s fucked up, but I laughed my ass off at that. =P
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to the Kings game too, with a buddy of mine who’s a Pens fan. I’ll probably throw him off the upper deck during the 2nd, so look for that.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think it will take till the 2nd for him to be gloating bout the lead over the Kings? … :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality? (boycott Hollywood!)
by ang6666 on Oct 27, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to the Kings game too, with a buddy of mine who’s a Pens fan. I’ll probably throw him off the upper deck during the 2nd, so look for that.
I’ll keep an eye out for that. =P Quick question, would you be happy with a Bobby Ryan for Alexander Frolov trade?
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oof — if that’s our method out of this jam (best young player for a pending UFA), going to be a long decade.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just a thought. I heard a rumor that Frolov was on the chopping block and that discussion we had the other day got me wondering what other people would think about that trade.
I don’t really know the ins and outs and I’m not sure how I would feel about that, but I thought it was interesting.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Kings were to trade Fro to the Ducks it’d probably be for Whitney.
Also, you know what’s a lot of fun? Take a Ducks’ fan that’s really pissed (like my roommate) and then casually comment on how you think the Kings should trade for Scott Niedermayer when they make the playoffs. Then watch their eye twitch.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’m looking pretty seriously now at the pending UFAs and their names are pretty fetching — Niedermayer, Selanne, Koivu, Hiller.
If the Ducks have a deadline day garage sale, there’s some serious experience there.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’m looking pretty seriously now at the pending UFAs and their names are pretty fetching — Niedermayer, Selanne, Koivu, Hiller.
For some reason, I can really see them trading Hiller.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Kings were to trade Fro to the Ducks it’d probably be for Whitney.
Really? Why Whitney?
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) They’ll probably be looking for a puck-moving defender if they look for anything.
2) There’s no way in FUCK the Ducks would trade Bobby Fucking Ryan for Alexander Frolov, are you out of your Goddammed mind????
I don’t really see the Ducks trading Niedermayer or Selanne, they’re kind of legacy at this point right? Maybe Koivu since he’s never won a Cup but he hasn’t been too sharp up to this point.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2) There’s no way in FUCK the Ducks would trade Bobby Fucking Ryan for Alexander Frolov, are you out of your Goddammed mind????
Yeah, sometimes. Not saying that it’s going to happen or that it will ever happen. Just curious what you guys thought. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want that to happen, although at this point, I’m not sure I could look at any change negatively.
by JohnQPhats on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they fall far enough, and the fans depart enough, I don’t know who’s off-limits. Especially if the return’s nice for Captain Canada.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes roll with go fuck yourself..it feels good to say…like a womans sweet ass
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone else been masochistic enough to look at the Ducks’ playoff chances? 10.4%. The percentage goes up with the 50/50 method (32.4%), but with the way the Ducks have played, there’s no indication that we even should be that hopeful.
by g r a c e on Oct 27, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I looked at it like a week ago, and it was depressing then.
They should get a lot of web traffic from us this year, I’d guess. Until we’re mathematically eliminated in January.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saw this on Twitter today…so I thought I’d throw it over here too.
maybe this is the "move"?
GO DUCKS!!!
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by SK eleven on Oct 27, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Curious — he did seem to do OK towards the end of preseason — maybe his job is to throw a punch at an opposition player before Perry decides to.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 28, 2009 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
earl whats next for our ducks besides this calder thing….need direction..
Ducks blow old goats right now but....GO DUCKS!!! for shits and giggles!!
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 28, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shrug — we’ll see what Carlyle or Murray do.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Oct 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
San Jose
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59 | 39 | 11 | 9 | 87 |
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Phoenix
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60 | 36 | 19 | 5 | 77 |
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Los Angeles
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59 | 36 | 20 | 3 | 75 |
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Dallas
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58 | 26 | 21 | 11 | 63 |
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Anaheim
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59 | 28 | 24 | 7 | 63 |
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