Battle of California: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: Has Kentucky Improved Since the Non-Conference Season?

Jonathan Quick is Not Very Good Right Now


 

Jonathan Quick cost us the game last night.  Well, not really, no one person ever costs a team a game, but he should have stopped at least one of the three goals that went in.  Last night was really frustrating because none of the goals were necessarily bad goals to let in, but all were stoppable with solid positioning.

The first goal, he came out to face the shot but lost the puck off the rebound; while he searched for it (and even stepped away from the puck), Mika Pyorala made a quick move to his right and buried the puck.  But hey, that happens to everyone.  Still, it's not a good idea to start to stand up and move to your right when you don't know where the puck is.

The second goal was a team lapse and Mike Richards did take a hard shot, but Quick still could have gotten it.  It's one of those goals where you'd like to see him make the save but you understand why he didn't.  Still, a more positionally sound goaltender would have saved it.  He dived to the left on the initial cross-ice pass instead of sliding over, then dove back to the right as the puck went behind the net; by the time the puck was passed up to Richards, Quick was so out of control that any shot where he wasn't was pretty much guaranteed to go in.  His stick was out of position, he wasn't focused on the puck, he was kind of a mess.

Star-divide

The third goal he was kind of lazy getting back, although you can kind of understand why he didn't get there because who expects the puck to bounce off the endboards like that?  And you can point to Sean O'Donnell for not tying up James Van Riemsdyk, but I still think Quick needs to be heading over there as the shot goes by, not waiting until he sees Van Riemsdyk's eyes get big to realize he's in trouble.

And see, that's the problem with Quick right now.  The goals he's letting in aren't necessarily bad goals, but they're saves you've seen other goalies make.  Goalies who make all the saves they should make are and don't get the ones they're not supposed to are called back-ups in the NHL.  He needs to be up more on the balls of his feet, stop diving from side to side, be more controlled and be bigger in the net.  (STOP HUNCHING OVER, WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT???)  Right now he looks like a roller hockey goaltender, flopping from one post to the other, and I don't know why. 

Quick has a .900 SV% so far this season; that's just not good enough.  It's easy to say, "Well, it wasn't really his fault because of this, this, and this," but at some point you have to stop making excuses and start believing the numbers.  I like Quick and I think he's a good goalie, but if we're going to criticize Jason Labarbera and Mathieu Garon and Dan Cloutier and Erik Ersberg and Cristobal Huet and every goalie the Kings have ever had since Rogie Vachon, it's only fair that we criticize Quick.  He needs to pick it up.

0 recs  |  Comment 10 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

More from Battle of California

Deep Thoughts

Dec 2009 by RudyKelly - 62 comments

Kings Roofie Hurricanes, 5-2

Nov 2009 by RudyKelly - 8 comments

How to Score a Goal

Oct 2009 by RudyKelly - 10 comments

Comments

Display:

My dream scenario for a future championship club include an elite center, winger, d-man and goalie. Kopitar and Doughty appear to fit 2 of these slots and I pray to Jeebus and Santa and whoever else that Bernier develops into an elite goalie… I hate having to be patient.

I also hope for a team with tons of grit… hurry up Schenn and Clifford. And I hope Lombardi didn’t make a mistake in drafting Colton Teubert over Tyler Myers. I really hope he isn’t a clown.

by Irish Pat on Nov 19, 2009 12:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Myers wasn’t available when we took Tuebert. He went 12th to Buffalo, we took Tuebert with the 13th pick. Agreed he doesn’t look as hot as we when we took him, but Voinov and Loktionov look better than advertised so hopefully it evens out.

by Nut on Nov 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Nhl_Entry_Draft#Notes_.28Round_1.29

The Kings dropped from 12th to 13th in order to snag Buffalo’s 2009 3rd round pick.

by BradW on Nov 19, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lombardi traded Cammaleri and a late first round pick (which Lombardi got from Dallas in the Matty Norstrom trade) in a three way trade with the Ducks and Flames and the Kings got the 12th overall selection. Lombardi then played cards with Darcy Regeir and flipped the 12th and 13th overall selections while also netting a 3rd rounder from Buffalo (which turned into Andrew Campbell). Kings could’ve drafted Myers.

by Irish Pat on Nov 19, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, so Myers wasn’t available when we took Tuebert. Technically, I’m vindicated. Haha! (Ok, I was wrong..)

by Nut on Nov 19, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Points are valid although I sure hope to high hell that he doesn’t end up like Cloutier………..

by superfan#99 on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty damn weak that Quick got outplayed by Brian pinchi Boucher last night

Stanley Cups won: Raymond Bourque 1 - Marty McSorley 2. Suck it, Chowderhead!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Nov 19, 2009 3:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I still cannot believe Brian Boucher holds the NHL shutout streak record.

by Donzo on Nov 20, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think hating on Quick's entirely fair...

I’m a Phoenix Coyotes season ticket holder so I should hate L.A. and the other teams in California. Yet, I drafted Jon Quick to be on my fantasy team (it’s a very deep league and I wanted to grab another starter before they were gone.) That said, I liken his development to be similar to Cam Ward’s. Ward’s had some great campaigns in recent seasons, but after his first full season in the NHL (you know, the one after he started in the playoffs when Gerber dominated the whole regular season as the starter…) to have a .897 save percentage, which is pretty close to what Quick has now.

What’s my point? It’s his first full season in the NHL and frankly, there’s a lot of legitimate reasons why Quick’s not entirely to blame. From a team perspective, L.A.‘s defense has holes in it and he’s having to patch that up as an inexperienced goaltender on an semi-experienced run-and-gun team (Ryan Smyth’s cool, but I know the Kings are missing Kyle Quincey right now.) From an individual perspective, this is his first full year in the NHL and he’s already leading the league in starts; largely because Erik Ersberg isn’t finding his rhythm and therefore isn’t finding the ice time (or vice versa.) I know it’s only one end of the ice but it’s still draining; he’s lucky to not be out with an injury at this point.

At the end of the day, the problem isn’t with Quick; it’s with the Kings organization for either not playing Ersberg more, not promoting Jonathan Bernier, or for not making a move (trade or otherwise) for an experienced backup to support Quick. I remember when the Detroit Red Wings had Tim Cheveldae as their goaltender back when the team was more focused on offense than it was on defense. They didn’t have an experienced backup for him to work with and it ultimately wrecked his development to the point where he was retired by the ripe old age of 30. Compare that to when they made a play for Mike Vernon to support Chris Osgood during his second NHL season and look how Osgood’s career turned out (3 Stanley Cup rings and 5 Cup Finals appearances don’t lie folks.) If Ersberg can’t be responsible for 30-35 games then a play has to be made for someone else to either share starts with Quick or guide him to becoming a solid starting goaltender.

by The Rue on Nov 19, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not hating on Quick, I’m pointing out that he’s not playing well. I don’t think stating the obvious is unfair. And the Kings defense doesn’t have holes; they’re 2nd in the league in shots allowed per game. I do agree that the Kings need someone better to back up Quick, but they’re going to wait until at least December to call up Bernier. I don’t think Quick is tired, and I don’t think he’s wishing he was playing less. The simple fact is Quick isn’t playing well and he needs to play better.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Nov 20, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Takes and trash talk from all sides of the NHL's most pathetic* rivalry

* Thanks, Kevin Lowe!
Start posting on Battle of California »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Earl_sleek2_small
HOCKEENIGHT Dances For A Cure
0107001523_small
Spade and the King of Ptown visit the staples center
Small
Ducks fans - Who wants to go to Staples tonight?
0107001523_small
Thoughts from yesterday and some for today
Avatarheadshot_small
Ducks: Possible Combinations for 3 Scoring Lines?
Burke_small
A Question for you Kings Fans
0107001523_small
Battle of California T-shirts order yours now!!
0107001523_small
Just when you think your ahead someone steps on your nuts
Ducks_small
Feb 3 against those RW
Gary_bettman_s_nightmare_small
Developing Player Value: Penalty +/- per 15 Minutes (PPMp15)

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

One of the more revealing quotes comes from former Ducks and current...
is that sammy phals....?...o wait....earl are u pissed?

I posted this to prove there was a game yesterday haha

go ducks!!
I want to send this to all ducks players and coaches....the monkey pretty much says it all...

this gaurantees i will be so drunk next thursday at the ducks kings-game that I will forget what I witness...my plan is to just hoot and holler at hot LA chics and spend quality family time with my brotha....my moms would be so proud

I mean after the ducks see this photo I send them...I have to imagine they are gonna hate themselves and go on a tear...at least thats what im going for..he kinda looks like the rally monkey anyways maybe it will work
After the recent revelation that Zetterberg and Datsyuk become two-bit floozies for the betterment...
I decided to be an asshole at The Verizon Center in Washington DC when they were playing the Coyotes.  I was going to add "P.S. Ovechkin is overrated" but my girlfriend talked me out of it.
Does anyone else think this is hilarious?
haha,you mad
Ducks Teammate Quiz - FULL PICTURE HERE
The Toughest Division in Hockey? The Pacific
Calder placed on waivers

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

Pacific Standings

GP W L OTL PT
San Jose 59 39 11 9 87
Phoenix 60 36 19 5 77
Los Angeles 59 36 20 3 75
Dallas 58 26 21 11 63
Anaheim 59 28 24 7 63

(updated 2.9.2010 at 6:00 AM PST)

3 years old and counting!

BoCTurnsThree


Managers

Earl_sleek2_small Earl Sleek

Dinoridertrexarmored_small RudyKelly

Awkwardmarleau_small Mike Chen

Editors

San2_small Cheechew

Shark_hat_small pj48

Small jamestobrien