Ducks trade Kunitz and Tangradi for Pittsburgh's Ryan Whitney
by Earl Sleek on Feb 26, 2009 9:18 AM PST
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Kunitz is signed to a contract that last three more years for a cap hit of $3.725 M; Whitney is on a contract that lasts four more years for a cap hit of $4 M. Tangradi is a throw-in prospect, assumedly.
And suddenly, next year's blueline looks a little more filled.
[EDIT: Head on over to PensBurgh for some Penguin-y style reaction.]
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Good trade
for Anaheim, I think. Kunitz is a player I’m fond of, but I really think Whitney is a good player. And young.
Does this suggest that Neidermeyer isn’t returning?
by Karina on Feb 26, 2009 9:27 AM PST reply actions
I’m not really sure what it suggests — a lot of e-mailing in Fanhouse and SBN suggests that most think a Niedermayer or Pronger trade will follow. I’m less sure, of course — I think looking at next year’s roster with pretty much just Pronger and Whitney on the blueline isn’t a terrible starting point for GM Murray.
Still, it does restrict what can happen next year. Niedermayer and Pronger can’t continue to combine for $13 M in salary next year, that’s for sure.
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yeah
Holding on to Pronger and playing him with Whitney makes sense. That’s a legit top two, but there’s still gonna be a hole if Beauchemin walks.
Interesting trade anyways. I’m glad to see some bigger names get moved.
by Karina on Feb 26, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Holding on to Pronger and playing him with Whitney makes sense. That’s a legit top two […]
Well, Pronger and Niedermayer is a legit top two also, so if either of them is moved, people might look at it as a lateral move by getting Whitney, or that it actually hurt their team (except for the fact Whitney is under contract for four more years).
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
but
Neidermeyer is a UFA this summer and there’s no guarantee that he’d come back. This ensures that there is a top pairing if Neids moves on.
by Karina on Feb 26, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Chances are...
Neids will want to come back in 2010. I really think Scottie wants to play in one last Olympics for Canada. Even more so when you consider that the games will be in Vancouver and Scottie originally hails from B.C.
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
But at what price? That’s really the question that needs some answering. If it’s anything close to this year’s $6.75M, then the Pronger-Niedermayer-Whitney thing is probably a pipe dream.
If he’s willing to sign Teemu-style, though…
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If he’s willing to sign Teemu-style, though…
Exactly, Earl. I think Scottie would be willing to play for that type of contract. His motivation will be playing one more season with his brother and to play in the Olympics Games in his home Province
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
but
his bro is also a UFA this summer, is he not?
by Karina on Feb 26, 2009 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but at least they can get Rob at a much cheaper price, if they decide to re-sign him. I’m just wondering if the Niedermayers would have to be a package deal for any team; Scott left the Devils because he wanted to play alongside Rob.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
UFA Robbie?
I think you are correct, Karina. I could see Murray trying to lock them both up for one more season. As Earl is implying, the Ducks might just ride out the remainder of this season with the players they have. Pronger will be under contract for one more year, and could be traded around the Draft Time for some more assets. It’s my understanding that Pronger has not tried to dispute any rumors about him leaving Anaheim this season or next as part of a trade. I don’t think Pronger resents playing in Anaheim as he did in Edmonton, but it doesn’t seem to be the place where he wants to finish his career at either.
Regardless, the worst case scenario for Murray and the Ducks would be for Neids to leave after this season, and Pronger to leave after next, and for the Ducks to lose two such valuable assets and reieve nothing back in return…
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
It’s my understanding that Pronger has not tried to dispute any rumors about him leaving Anaheim this season or next as part of a trade.
Well, here’s what Pronger’s blog says from about two weeks ago:
Well without beating around the bush i will get straight ot the point. There have been many, many trade rumors regarding my name over the past month or so. Let’s get something straight i have not asked for a trade nor will i ask for a trade.
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Good stuff Earl
I never saw that discussion from Pronger. It’s a little sly that Chris doesn’t come out to say that he would attempt to block any trade though, either. Does anyone know if Pronger has one of those funky No Trade Clauses in his contract that go into effect after he was sent from Edmonton to Anaheim?
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I like this trade from the Ducks’ perspective. I’ve always been a fan of Ryan Whitney as a strong, solid defender. He was injured at the start of the season, and made his season debut in late-December. Although it’s strange that they gave up Kunitz. He got a lot of minutes, and he leads the league this year with 62 GP and a good offensive player.
I always find it strange when teams swap a forward for a defender, and Kunitz is one of those guys that I just like (because he has a ‘z’ in his name, and because he’s a decent LW for my Devils squad on NHL 09). Interesting move by the Ducks, and I think means the Ducks are more likely to move either Pronger or Niedermayer.
To get four years out of Whitney is gonna help the Ducks in the long run.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
He got a lot of minutes, and he leads the league this year with 62 GP and a good offensive player.
Kunitz is a great hustler, a good team-first stand-up guy, and he has decent offensive awareness (though probably not the best set of hands). He might fit well on the perpetual vacancy on Crosby’s wing.
Still, I think a lot of players could ride shotgun on the Getzlaf-Perry line without a whole lot of disruption.
Interesting move by the Ducks, and I think means the Ducks are more likely to move either Pronger or Niedermayer.
Seems to be a popular notion on the internets, but we shall see. I’m still not entirely convinced.
Also: seeing as the Ducks are in Boston, does Whitney make an immediate debut? Could be interesting.
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Also: seeing as the Ducks are in Boston, does Whitney make an immediate debut? Could be interesting.
Apparently, Whitney didn’t play in the Penguins game last night, so it’s possible that the trade was complete before the game, and it was just reported today.
*Hey, look who got the blockquote right. I don’t need to stinkin’ edit button!!
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
It’s a solid trade for both teams.
Ducks get an overpaid yet undeniably talented offensive defenseman who plays soft for his size.
Pens get an overpaid but solid LW and deal from a position of strength (offensive D) to begin the healing from a weakness (terrible wings).
Seems like one of those rare “good for both sides” deals in general. But time will tell. (Whitney has a higher ceiling … and a lower basement. If that makes any sense.)
Also, this trade couldn’t have been done for salary reasons, as the Ducks actually increase their cap number. But basically, I’m jealous that the Ducks got Whitney. I wouldn’t have minded if the Kings tried to get him.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
There’s some salary consideration, I think — it shifts some of next year’s spending to the blueline, which up through yesterday was the most neglected position on next year’s team.
But yeah, it’s largely a wash for this year’s totals.
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Never thought about it that way. They’re obviously anticipating some change on blueline either at the deadline or the offseason, when Niedermayer may either retire or leave as a UFA.
And damn, NHLNumbers.com is fast. The Ducks now have $10.925M committed to four defenseman for next season: Pronger, Whitney, Mikkelson (if he stays up), and Brookbank. That’s an average of about $2.7M per defenseman, which for 20 players is $54.625M. They’ll be very close to that cap, which I’m not sure if it’s gonna go down or stay the same, and if they don’t retain Niedermayer (or Pronger, for that matter), they could easily get a cheaper alternative to the $6M+ they’d be worth.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
That’s an average of about $2.7M per defenseman, which for 20 players is $54.625M.
I highly doubt that the Ducks average $2.7M per forward, though. That’s an incredible number for any NHL team. I wouldn’t pro-rate 20 players based on 4, at any rate. That’s silliness.
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I wouldn’t pro-rate 20 players based on 4, at any rate. That’s silliness.
Especially with defensemen.
Yeah, I know. But in any case, the Ducks have about a $36M cap hit for next season with 11 players. The guys they might be able to re-sign cheaply: Pahlsson, Moen, Montador, Huskins, and Beauchemin. I think they’ll be in good shape for this offseason. They just need stability. After March 4, they need to know what’s gonna happen with Niedermayer if he isn’t traded. And of course, everything is based on what happens with Pronger.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
Tangradi
Earl, I don’t know if Tangradi could be dismissed as a “throw-in” prospect in this deal. He might develop into just the power forward Sydney Crosby needs. Adam Muir of Sports Illustrated actually just recently named Tangradi as one of the 10 Best Prospects currently playing in Canadian Juniors:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/allan_muir/02/06/canadian.juniors.mailbag/index.html
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions
It’s quite possible Tangradi is a player — I really have no idea — basically until a prospect hits NHL ice, odds are I’ve never heard of them.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Hi Earl,
Tangradi’s solid. Hockey’s Future just recently named him the #2 prospect in Anaheim’s system behind Jake Gardiner.
And now he’s traded and just like that the list released yesterday is out of date. Sigh…
-Kevin Forbes
Hockey's Future
Thanks a ton, Kevin — for those of you don’t know Forbes, he’s a real HF force that unlike me does keep track of prospects and their promise.
In terms of prospect tracking, K. Forbes is the Sears Tower and I am the Grand Canyon. Elevation = Expertise in this mixed metaphor.
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People are just so horny to say that Pronger is being traded. This deal does not imply that to me. If anything, it was made to make sure they have at least 2 of 4 top pairing D guys set for next year. It’s kind of hard to add 3-5 D from free agency and prospects.
I guess Pronger COULD be traded but anything could happen during the trade deadline.
Even the Hat, a Canadian writer I really like, thinks a big d-man deal is imminent. Don’t people remember how last year the Ducks held onto too many blueliners through the end of the year?
Still, I’ll maintain that pretty much everyone today is theorizing off the seat of their pants — nobody has the insider track here except GM Murray, I think.
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I'm an idiot when it comes to this crap
But to me this means that most likely Pronger stays and Scott goes.
am i the only guy who doesnt like the move?….with my roomate being a pens fan i get to watch a lot of penguins games….and whitney isnt all that noticable on the ice
i thought also tangradi was suppose to be somthing good
dont like it…dont like it all….
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions
See, I don’t watch a lot of Pittsburgh. In fact, I hardly watch them ever. So Whitney’s actual play is a big unknown for me — on that my personal jury is still out.
His season this year was injury-tainted, though, so hopefully the -15 (or whatever) is a bit of an anomaly.
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my roomate speaks highly of him…but i never see him do shit…the game i watched last nite with him…the only d man i noticed was gonchar….that guy was pretty smooth and contributed to the game winning goal….
ill have to consult more with my buddy….i might be missing somthing
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Whitney was actually out of the lineup last night. As a matter of fact, I think this whole situation is one of those “that’s the business” sort of deals because Whitney was out for a family emergency. I don’t know the degree of the emergency, but it’s likely he won’t join up right away. Although don’t you guys play Boston soon? (his hometown).
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Just checked – you guys play them tonight. There’s a chance he’s already home in Boston with the family. This may be interesting…
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I just saw that he didn’t play last night against the Islanders, but didn’t know the reason. The fact that he’s already in Boston for family reasons is purely coincidence, and I could see him playing tonight, if the Ducks find a way to get him into the lineup.
Only thing is I don’t think they’ll want him to play tonight because he’s there, and then stay in Boston to tend to the family matters. So of course it depends on the severity.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
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whos gonna run the ducks wild winger kids club thing now….my kid will be so dissapointed
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions
been txting with my roomate the pens fan…said hes shocked…that anheim would give up kunitz and a high level prospect for whitney…says whitney has played like and i quote “garbage”
not happy
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
says whitney has played like and i quote "garbage"
I’m not sure there’s a lot of disagreement here, but the larger question is whether this is because he came off an injury, or whether it’s a permanent state of suckitude. I think more people are leaning towards the former — he did seem to be a player in last year’s playoffs, I thought.
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It’s a mix of both I think. He signed a big contract before last season and really underachieved. Granted he played most of the season injured, but even his handling of the injury was a beat cheap. He knew he was hurt all year, and I KNOW the season is a long and painful time which often calls for a much needed vacation, but did he have to wait till late August to opt for the surgery? With all of the holes on the blue line this season, he could’ve returned at least a month earlier had he handled it better.
Also a little more on Whitney – he’s afraid of the corners, can’t hit and has lately been out of position (maybe a new team can change that). However, he’s a decent set-up guy and when his shot is on, it’s on.
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Also a little more on Whitney – he’s afraid of the corners, can’t hit and has lately been out of position
We should pair him with Hedican, then, and have the ultimate sissy d-pairing.
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ultimate sissy d-pairing.
Oh fabulous. I’m just feeling better and better about this trade as the time passes…can you tell? HA!
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You may want to hold off a little — I’m not entirely convinced that Kunitz is worth his money, either. Good effort, OK skills is my short summary of the guy, and in the right situation he should be fine.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
The Pro’s & Con’s of both Kunitz’ and Whtney’s skill sets could make this trade a wash. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if later on Tangradi’s progression will make the balance of scale on this trade tip into Pittsburgh’s favor…
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 26, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
i think the idea is to put him with pronger or neids…pronger though better….and let them do the d work and let whitney (an offenisve d man we all assume) add some creativity
so his lack of defense wouldnt be any different than hedican mikalsson etc.
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
One thing, though — I really like the Pronger-Brookbank pairing in the last several games. I’d hold onto that, but maybe something like Whitney-Montador?
We’ll see — I’m not even sure when Eli Whitney will make his debut.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
…the Cotton Gin guy?
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Yup. I’m not afraid to mix in a little bit of U.S. History here. He may have also been responsible for rifles with interchangeable parts, and I do recall one of my high school teachers saying that no person was more responsible for the Civil War than Eli Whitney.
The lackluster Ducks maybe could use a bit of that war-starting technology.
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Yes, iirc, Eli Whitney figured prominently in both the start and end of the Civil War. The general idea is that slavery was dying out, slowly but surely, and then Whitney invented the cotton gin, instantly sparking an incredible demand for cotton, and so slavery spiked again. Then Whitney started a new manufacturing process of using identical parts, so that any idiot could put them together, instead of a gunsmith, and combined with the Union’s manufacturing capabilities, the North was able to arm themselves well enough to push for the upper hand in the Civil War.
Think thats right. Been a while since I took any of my Civil War classes, either in high school or college.
Lets just say yes.
Who gets moved to the 2nd line in Ryans place? For some reason I’m more concerned with that. Perry and Getzlaf can handle their own, but finding a strong 2nd line has been an issue these past two season. It was actually working with Ebbett, Selanne and Ryan…what now?
Probably right Sleek, the chance that anything sticks is unlikely to begin with.
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If I’m Carlyle (and there’s plenty of evidence to the contrary), I probably look at filling the Getzlaf-Perry vacancy with somebody other than Ryan, Ebbett, or Selanne. Most anybody can ride shotgun on the top line without slowing them down too much — it may even be a good place to stash Brendan Morrison for a while.
Carlyle may have other plans, though.
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put mike brown on that line with getz and perry…that dude seems like hes willing to crash and make shit…happen…
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 11:03 AM PST reply actions
I think this is my favorite idea.
I was making that point the other day that I think Brown and Kuni played very similarly.
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Seconded — I’ve only seen a bit of Brown, but he does have some of that Fedoruk or Shawn Thornton style that’s worked with G/P in the past.
Not a bad idea, Spade.
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yea for sure….like brad may but younger
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
yea yea yea, I know no one else on her gets updates from Twitter…
Anyway, I just got this:
AnaheimDucks: We just picked up Ryan Whittney from Pens for Kunitz & Tangradi
I think it should have said this:
We just LOST Kunitz & Tangradi to the Pens cause this current group couldn’t get their heads out of their asses and play like an ’effin team.
Yea, I’m feeling a bit bitter.
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You may be able to use Whitney as a tax write off, if that helps at all
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i got the idea when they put may on there line and it seemed to be effective(even in the playoffs)…for some reason though rc…never kept it up….hmmm…welll c what happens
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions
Kunitz ‘shocked’ at deal by Ducks — some Kunie reaction from the OC Register blog.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Can’t say I’m going to miss seeing Kunitz six times a year, I’ll tell you that much. I agree with JamesT, seems like a decent deal for both teams with Pittsburgh getting a little grit/work ethic/decent scoring ability and a prospect, while the Ducks pick up a guy with huge upside.
From what I can remember Whitney played really well during the Pens Cup run last season, but as it’s been noted here, has pretty much stunk this season.
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Here's a thought
Maybe They felt Kunitz was somewhat expendable because Brown can fill his shoes and Larsen fills in the depth chart, who should be off IR soon.
Quick OC Register Update
Ryan Whitney will NOT make his debut tonight. More likely he’ll play in Dallas on Saturday.
So a few more days before we’ll get some knee-jerk on-ice reaction.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Also an update from Mark Whicker:
What the Ducks really achieved was cost certainty. Whitney, 26, is signed through 2013, a season in which he will make $5.5 million. If the Ducks trade Niedermayer, they now know they’ll have two veteran D’s under wraps next year at least (Pronger and Whitney).
He’s not treating a Pronger trade as an automatic, that’s for sure.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
either way, financially, I don’t think Anaheim can start the 2009-10 season with Whitney, Niedermayer and Pronger all on the blueline.
I don’t see Pronger going at the deadline unless Murray gets an offer that blows him away. I think they wait to see what Niedermayer does before they trade Pronger.
Next year will either be Whitney-Pronger or Niedermayer-Whitney heading up Anaheim’s defense.
The forgotten soldier in all this might be Beauchemin. He’s making 1.65million this season and despite missing most of the year with injury, he will probably be looking for well over 2million a year for 3-4 years.
With Anaheim having other holes left to fill (or players to resign), the Ducks might find themselves parting ways with Beauchemin.
On a side note, anyone else notice the lack of RFAs that the Ducks have this offseason? It’s like Brett Festerling and then a bunch of Iowa guys.
-Kevin Forbes
Hockey's Future
Next year will either be Whitney-Pronger or Niedermayer-Whitney heading up Anaheim’s defense.
Heh, I just wrote a piece on this trade that I’ll be putting up this morning, and that’s essentially how I ended.
On a side note, anyone else notice the lack of RFAs that the Ducks have this offseason? It’s like Brett Festerling and then a bunch of Iowa guys.
Yeah, that is a little weird, the UFA-to-RFA ratio is crazy. At least I feel good about what Uncle Festerling will probably ask for in his next contract. But I like that guy plenty — I think he’s been missed since his demotion.
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Damn
This trade depresses me. NOT KUNITZ!! :( :( :( : ({|) the last one is a cheezburger
but goddamn man – how come they couldn’t trade someone terrible – apparently that’s what Pittsburgh did
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Whitney
I am a Pens fame…imagine that from my name…I don’t know anything about Kunitz except for the fact i have heard of him. Whitney on the other hand I know all too well. I wanted to like Whitney since he first came up for the Pens. He is a great skater, great puck mover can hit the net from the blue line (on the PP) but he is a HORRID D-Man. He is soft, careless with the puck in his own end and always seems to be one step behind the guy who scores ALWAYS (hence his +-) I am not saying he sucks because i see potential but honestly right now people I know are high fiving and the joke in the burgh was to trade him for a bag of pucks. I must say he was the scape goat in PGH for the fans so we will see how he does in a different atmosphere (that may be all he needs)
by black&goldtilldead&cold on Feb 26, 2009 1:47 PM PST reply actions
Thanks for the input. Much appreciated. And if you guys find that you miss having a soft-on-defense scapegoat, maybe give GM Bob Murray another call. I don’t even want a bag of pucks for Hedican.
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ha ha
what do you think of Kunitz as a winger for Crosby? I know he is not Hossa but do you think he will be able to produce with the kid? I saw less than avg. hands and cringed we have about 5 of them they tried with Crosby this year. I am very level headed i think we got a better than avg forward who plays hard….if that is it i am fine with it. We needed grit bad this year it is one thing we really lack.
by black&goldtilldead&cold on Feb 26, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
what do you think of Kunitz as a winger for Crosby? I know he is not Hossa but do you think he will be able to produce with the kid?
It’ll probably work out. Kunitz uses and creates space pretty well, and overall is above-average. It’s just that if Sid created enough chances for Hossa to score five goals (in whatever stretch), Kunitz will probably get three or four. Not from a lack of trying, but he can shoot straight into a goalie’s crest with some regularity.
Solid guy, though, and I’m curious to see how well that translates next to Sid.
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just found out
Whitneys Mom has brain cancer….i feel really bad, he is dealing with that and now gets traded about as far from her as he could….shame
by black&goldtilldead&cold on Feb 26, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions
Another minor trade, not involving the Ducks
Are the floodgates opening?
Montreal sends F Steve Begin to Dallas for D Doug Janik (link).
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im not gonna lie kinda makes things a little exciting…maybe even lights a fire under the ducks…hmmmm
even though i hate the trade…
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
even though i hate the trade…
I may end up hating it too, but I think I have to wait until at least Whitney’s first on-ice goal-against. Force of habit.
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For sure, I’m willing to give the guy a chance before deciding what type of nickname he’s going to get. For now, he’s just “new guy”.
He probably doesn’t want Morrison’s nickname…douchbag.
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I don’t often base nicknames on performance, though. B-Mo is B-Mo, and unless I get some better inspiration, Whitney is probably Cotton Gin.
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yea we usually don’t either. But in Morrisons case, it was cut and dry.
haha…I like the whole Cotton Gin thing though
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morrison could have been nicknamed the ghost also
probally better…since hnidy should have held the title douchebag
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
since hnidy should have held the title douchebag
OH THAT GUY! I have blocked him from my memory. He wasn’t worthy enough of a mention. I’ll give that much to Morrison, at least he’s so blatantly a waste of space that I find it necessary to name him
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i was watching a bruins game once…and he was STILL doing the same coughing up the puck crap he did here in anaheim..he coughed one up that lead to a short-handed goal…you know what the funny part.is?…he was getting some quailty minutes!!! power play time etc…im curious to see tonite if the bruins have caught on to his act….
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Careful. We’ll get to see some former Ducks today (Shawn Thornton and Shane Hnidy), and I’m thinking they’re more likely to bruise the Ducks than vice versa. I kind of miss both of them (remembering how Hnidy was quite positive in the 2nd half of his short Anaheim career).
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i just dont understand why tangradi had to be included…i could maybe understand a straight swap for each player..there both above average players..(although im not hearing that from pens fans)….i just feel like we got fleeced on this…the only way it makes sense is if one or both of the big 2 is heading out.
well c..maybe im wrong and whitney makes an impact….just sucks kunitz was a great blue collar..stick up for teamates.gritty…but can score…kinda player….youd rather have more of those on your team than offensive d-men…that from what im hearing play no defense….
this might be a bad omen from murray
El Spade-o
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 26, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I feel like Kunitz for Whitney was already a good deal for them – a kid with a bright future just makes it terrible
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I don’t trust Tangradi to live up to the hype, though — simply because Burkie drafted him. That’s way down the road, though.
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I wouldn’t count on Mikey Brown filling in for Kunitz. Dude got no hands. Hardworker though. High energy.
And poor, poor B-Mo. Douchebag is harsh. Maybe New Burkie will trade him back to Vancouver to be a third liner for our playoff run? For like a 5th rounder or something? :D
Well, to be fair, Kuni wasn’t a god with the puck either. Hardworker, high energy…yes. So hopefully Brown will continue to provide that as well.
How about you just take Morrison back. I’m okay with that. We’ll call it even.
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Oh, you B-Mo haters. I tell you, it’d be tough if my first two months on the job I played through injury but could never shake that stigma no matter what happened afterwards.
I still don’t mind the guy.
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Remember
Whitney was our whipping boy….he got verbally abused by the fans and media in Pittsburgh so give him a chance you (and I) may be very suprised. Like i said I think in the long run he will be a good solid all around player in this league. Unfortunately for us it was just time to cut ties. We have three semi solid offensive D-men and Whitney had the biggest contract /(less worth than Gonchar) So we had to move him.
by black&goldtilldead&cold on Feb 26, 2009 3:02 PM PST reply actions
He’s in the lineup, that’s for sure.
I guess they’re not retiring Andy Mac’s #19 then :)
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sooooo, I’m a little slow on the uptake here…
I just realized we now have 4 Ryans now. random wow.
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That’s probably the ultimate goal. To get as many Ryan’s as possible. So we may be signing Matt Damon soon and Nathan Fillion soon.
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Ignore one of the "soon"s
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Ummmm
Let’s move the Boston game talk over to the comments of the gameday post, if you guys don’t mind. That way people can still react to the trade without wading through all the usual game-commentary foofaw (that can’t be a word, can it?).
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In what way did my comments warrant this reply?
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Hmmmm...
One more trade theory to mull over. Could it be that Brian Burke will get involved in the aftermath?
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Wait wait wait I just noticed this
Todd Marchant makes $2.5 mil? What the hell?
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Has anyone been hearing Malkin to Anaheim for Perry (and change)? I’m sure it’s bullshit as James mocked something similar in a recent post, but I just find it funny seeing as when we played them Malkin and Perry were at each other’s throats at the end of the game.
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
Also, try this
go to google and type (with quotes) “Malkin to [insert any team here]” I bet you’ll get results
People who save up for a rainy day are like milk. And milk goes good with cookies, so you should have those people over for cookies.
How about “Malkin to Penguins”? I only get four hits, and they’re all pretty bogus. Two of them are on a basketball forum, and the other two turn up because it says “To hawks Evgein Malkin To Penguins Cam Barker & David boland could fill needs for both teams.”
Does that count?
Either way, I’m getting really tired of the Malkin-for-Kopitar rumors (the only rumors involving Kopitar that don’t seem to come from the Ottawa Sun or involve the Senators in any way), so at least they’re mixing it up.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You deserved that 5-game suspension.
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