A Quick Question

by RudyKelly on Mar 29, 2009 7:48 AM PDT Comment 9 comments

Oscar Moller couldn't play in Manchester this season because he was only 19 and had to play in Junior if he wasn't in the NHL. However, now that the Seattle Thunderbirds have been eliminated from the playoffs, he can get sent down to the AHL, right? That makes sense to me but I don't know for sure.

Also, Thomas Hickey was also eliminated so he'll probably get sent to Manchester as well. They should be a pretty cool team to watch in the playoffs.

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Oscar Moller played on the Chilliwack Bruins, not the Seattle Thunderbirds. Are you sure players can go to the AHL once their Junior team has been eliminated? If that’s the case, why is Colten Teubert with the Ontario Reign and not Manchester?

Go look in the CBA and get back to me…

by Connie Kim on Mar 29, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions

They can.

Jordan Eberle went to the Springfield Falcons after his Regina Pats missed the playoffs. It’s pretty standard practice for kids who aren’t going back to junior anyway.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 30, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Moller’s rights got traded to Seattle during the WJC. I think Teubert got sent to the ECHL because he wasn’t going to get top minutes with Manchester.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Mar 29, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions

Huh, well then. If Hickey and Teubert were both eligible to go to Manchester, why couldn’t management bring one to LA? Possibly because they wouldn’t want to burn a year off their entry-level contract… The only thing I’m sure of now is that we’re gonna suck in the faceoff circle for the rest of the season.

by Connie Kim on Mar 29, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

You don’t burn a year of the entry level contract unless a player plays 40 games. Being so late in the season the Kings could do whatever they wanted with Teubert and Hickey without concern for the Entry-level contract years. The Kings have not been shy about bringing young guys into the NHL if they think they can handle it so I would bet they are keeping Teubert and Hickey in the minors because they don’t think either one is prepared to play at the NHL level. There is no reason to be impatient with prospects, especially on defense. The Kings are going to be scary in just a couple of years so right now they should (and most likely are) just be worried about putting each prospect in a position to succeed and develop.

by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 29, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m not going to look it up, but I thought the entry level cutoff was 10 games. I remember there was a big deal in the ’06 playoffs when the Ducks were leading the Avalanche 3 games to none — the Avs decided to bring up Woltek Wolski for G4, which was significant because he had played 9 regular season games to that point so it was a future-impacting decision.

Anybody with insight, feel free to contribute.

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by Earl Sleek on Mar 29, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions

I think it’s after 9 games you can’t send them back to Junior, which pretty much means they’re yours for the season, but the ELC doesn’t kick in until 40.

The Kings burned a year of Jack Johnson’s ELC because it was written into his deal that any time in the NHL counted as a year, but I think Hickey and Teubert are already signed so they can come up without worrying about that. I just didn’t put in any scenario where Hickey plays in LA because it doesn’t seem all that likely. Maybe, I guess, if they think Drewiskie could help Manchester more than Hickey could and they could use Hickey for 12 minutes a night in LA, but it doesn’t seem that likely.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Mar 29, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s Game 10 that causes the first year of the ELC to come off (hence the drama over when a junior-eligible player has played nine games — it’s the tenth that burns that year), but you can send a guy back to junior as long as he’s eligible. Luca Sbisa went back to Lethbridge halfway through the season, despite having played, IIRC, over 40 games in Philly, and Gilbert Brule was sent back to Vancouver a couple of times by the Jackets well after he’d played 40+ games.

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by Doogie2K on Mar 30, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions

The Kings burned a year of Jack Johnson’s ELC because it was written into his deal that any time in the NHL counted as a year

There we go, I knew there was something different with him, but I wasn’t sure exactly what it was stated as.

by Connie Kim on Mar 29, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

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