Oh What the Hell
by RudyKelly on Apr 22, 2009 1:07 PM PDT
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The finalists for the Calder Trophy were announced today, and the finalists are:
Steve Mason (who will win in a landslide)
Bobby Ryan (solid choice and deserves to be closer to Mason than he'll end up)
Kris Versteeg (22 G, 31 A, 53 P, +15, 55 PIM, 16 PP Points, 17:02 TOI/G)
Now, I know I shouldn't let this bother me. Like Earl constantly says, the Calder Trophy is ultimately meaningless and if anything it hurts your team because the player can use it to get more money in contract negotiations. But still, it does.
It bothers me that Drew Doughty wasn't nominated even though he led all rookie defensemen (and the Kings) in ice time. The Kings finished 4th in the league on shots on goal against.
It bothers me that Drew Doughty wasn't nominated even though he play 3 1/2 minutes a game on the power play and 3 minutes a game on the penalty kill
It bothers me that Doughty wasn't nominated even though he tied for the lead in scoring by a rookie defenseman with 27 points (although he would have been passed by a few people if they had played an entire season).
It bothers me that Doughty wasn't nominated even though he did this at 18/19 years old.
It bothers me that Kris Versteeg only had 53 points and was the 4th leading scorer on his team, while Doughty was the leader of the Kings' defense.
It bothers me that this is the 2nd time this has happened (Kopitar in 2006), but at least Jordan Staal had hype and national attention on his side; what does Kris Versteeg have going for him other than he doesn't play on the West Coast?
It bothers me that Kris Versteeg is a good young player but now I'm always going to hate him a little bit.
It bothers me that someone is going to say, "Who cares, it's just a nomination," because something doesn't become less wrong just because it's not that important.
It bothers me that Doughty was one of the few bright spots on the Kings this season and the rest of the league was apparently oblivious to it.
It bothers me because I can't imagine someone saying they'd rather have a 53-point forward than a 27-point, 23:49 TOI/G defenseman, and yet here we are.
It bothers me.
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Steve Mason (who will win in a landslide)
Thank goodness. I would have started campaigning heavily for Mason had this been a close race.
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by Earl Sleek on Apr 22, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It bothers me because I can’t imagine someone saying they’d rather have a 53-point forward than a 27-point, 23:49 TOI/G defenseman, and yet here we are.
That says it all right there. What GM would not chose Doughty over Vesrteeg if they had to chose today?
Fuck, that’s bothersome!
by Mike in OC on Apr 22, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not even a question of which player, because then you’re getting into the fact that Doughty is younger and more highly regarded and all that noise. All you have to do is ask yourself, “Whose season would you rather have,” and I don’t think anyone would say Versteeg’s.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Apr 22, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What GM would not chose Doughty over Vesrteeg if they had to chose today?
Probably the moron who runs Tampa, but I guess that was more rhetorical.
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Apr 22, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sliver lining is you guys will have Doughty for years.
Bastards.
by GOOLIAN on Apr 22, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have not done enough research to know this (eff you history), but how much does a team’s success during the season warrant Calder trophy nominees? Drew Doughty has generally flown in under the radar, but of course the three finalists are part of teams that made it into the playoffs. I just think that rookies on teams that do not make the playoffs deserve to warrant consideration (I bet Crosby and Ovechkin did, but they were very marketable players). I wonder what would have happened if Pekka Rinne and Zach Bogosian’s teams made the playoffs. Bogosian actually hasn’t been good, but as a Middle Eastern, I will make the argument every year that Bogosian, an Armenian, should win the Calder, Hart, and Vezina trophies.
Nevertheless, the Blue Jackets would not be where they are today without Steve Mason (I bet LeClaire would have given up a thousand goals if he was facing the Wings right now). Mason wins it after he gets swept tomorrow.
"Concentration, not strength." - Coach GB
by Wild Wing on Apr 22, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but as a Middle Eastern, I will make the argument every year that Bogosian, an Armenian, should win the Calder, Hart, and Vezina trophies.
Armenians apparently have a very long window of Calder eligibility :)
I don’t know if nationality should play into this very much. If he defied the odds and made the NHL, I almost think that’s something for the Masterton-voting crowd to consider, not the MVP-voting crowd.
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by Earl Sleek on Apr 22, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bogosian’s got Armenian roots? Sweet, I guess I have to start liking the guy instead of being 100 % indifferent. Armenia’s totally awesome, after all, at least as far as culture and history go.
by Malurous on Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sleek, I was going for the unwarranted awarding angle. Looks like I will be changing my lobbying for the Masterton award.
I think my attempt to make everyone like hockey is by telling everyone about the random minorities present in the league. Richard Park the Korean. Setoguchi the Japanese. Huet the Frenchman. I am still waiting for a Rodriguez to cross into the league.
"Concentration, not strength." - Coach GB
by Wild Wing on Apr 22, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
still waiting for a Rodriguez to cross into the league.
How bout Gomez?
by Mike in OC on Apr 22, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Fernandez (see Rudy? Got it right this time.)
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Apr 22, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Montoya is Cuban-American.
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
by Baroque on Apr 22, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
woohoo go minorities!!!
and go cuban food…one of the best by far
I got metal balls that "clang" when I walk
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 23, 2009 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is hilarious to me because just the other day Rudy was talking about the Calder and I knew there was no way in hell Doughty would get a nod. Didn’t have the heart to tell him though… he drinks too much as it is.
by Rucbert on Apr 22, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Doughty might have a fighting chance due to all of the Canadian press wanting to blow him thanks to the 2007 world championships. Did Chicago writers somehow get to vote twice? If it was Rinne instead of Versteeg I would be more understanding, but it’s still bull shit. Mostly, I think it’s because defensemen don’t get the respect they deserve. They are much more important than forwards, but it’s much harder to judge their worth from statistics, which is how most of these fuckheads did their research, apparently.
by Nut on Apr 22, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
eh, it’s the media. I’m pretty sure Versteeg got more press than Doughty which is why he got more votes.
Still. I’d take Doughty over the three nominees.
by Karina on Apr 22, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still. I’d take Doughty over the three nominees.
With the Kings’ history of goaltending? OK…
http://www.battleofcali.com/
by Earl Sleek on Apr 22, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
be he wasnt quick enough to get consideration….waa…waa….waaaaaaaa…bad joke
I got metal balls that "clang" when I walk
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 23, 2009 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he spent to much time in the Jon!
by Nut on Apr 23, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not the only goofy one around here…niiiice
I got metal balls that "clang" when I walk
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 23, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fact he has a name of a delicous chocolate/strawberry powdered drink mix should have edged him over Versteeg
I got metal balls that "clang" when I walk
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 23, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Versteeg getting selected over Doughty REALLY Grinds my Gears!!!
I’m hoping Peter Griffin writes a scathing commentary about this injustice to Drew for the Quahog Evening News…
Just leave Heidi Androl alone!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Apr 22, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I added the Drew Doughty photo. Not the best one but I took it just for this blog so I figured I would throw it up there.
by pj48 on Apr 22, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That is a sweet picture of Doughty. One of my favorite parts about this blog is PJ’s photos.
by TheRobberBaron on Apr 22, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the compliment, I like them too.
by pj48 on Apr 23, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It bothers me that someone is going to say, “Who cares, it’s just a nomination,” because something doesn’t become less wrong just because it’s not that important.
This is where I tend to get stuck on things. All-star games are included under that for me too. Just because its not that big a deal doesn’t mean it isn’t stupid and wrong, like including Keith Tkachuk in any sort of event celebrating players who are actually good. Awards too.
The other issue also is that while these things may not be important now, they do become important later. When Doughty’s career is over, assuming all goes well, perhaps the LA Kings have to consider retiring his number, hey, maybe hes considered for the HHOF. But even if it just comes down to a 60 year old RudyKelly trying to rank all time Kings D-men, such things as all-star games, awards, award nominations, etc. are always factors.
I’m sure I don’t understand because I’m new to experiencing the East-coast bias, and that most people are pretty apathetic to such things, but it just seems ridiculous to me when the tools and information are in hand, and the wrong decisions are reached.
http://redwingsvbluejackets.blogspot.com/
by IAmJoe on Apr 23, 2009 12:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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