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Filet-o-fish karma for Game 4?

 The McDonald's Filet-o-Fish commercial bombarding Pittsburgh Penguins broadcasts has turned into their version of the Rally Monkey according to LCS Hockey's Michael Dell.

The Filet O Fish Hardcore Remix takes it up a notch. This might be what it sounds like inside Rudy K's head 24-7.

[Update] Mike Chen and I were on a conference call with Versus television analyst Brian Engblom yesterday. Engblom's answers to my questions are up here. Mike asked him about a couple of good topics also.

[Q]  We always debate officiating down the stretch and in the playoffs. How do you feel the level of officiating has been, and do consider letting the players play as not calling the penalties to keep play going, or do you prefer strict rule enforcement to prevent clutching and grabbing?

[BE] I prefer strict rule enforcement as far as clutching and grabbing, that is really part of the game that dragged us down prior to the lockout, and that has been the biggest improvement in the overall quality of the game since we came out of it. It was a great idea, a great way to reenforce the rules. It gets the Crosby's, and Ovechkin's and Staal's, and all the star players, that is what people come to see. That is what they want to see on television. That was being lost because they had to fight through things that just shouldn't have been there.

I am totally in favor of having the clutching and grabbing being taken out of the game. The game is being played at a terrific level now, it is very entertaining when we get to see these guys accomplish what they are supposed to accomplish. Having said that, every sport, it doesn't matter if it is football or whatever. The NHL is the most difficult for referees to handle because  the speed and constancy of the game. In football you have 1 play and it is over. Hockey can go on for 5, 6, 7 or 8 minutes at a time without a whistle.  A lot of stuff goes on, and a lot of players come and go. There are a lot of body contacts and interchanges between players. The puck changes hands 20, 30 times between players. It is really difficult for them.

It is a moving, living part of the game that teams just have to deal with. Of course there have been mistakes. There have been mistakes this year, there have been mistakes every year and some of them are critical to teams. In the Detroit game last night, the Hossa goal, it was unfortunate. When you look at it, the puck was obviously open and free, and the goal should have counted. It is part of the game, it is not the referee's fault. They have to call those situations all the time. He was behind the goaltender at such and angle that he couldn't see that the puck was free. They make that call I don't know how many times in that game, and in other games. It's the right call.

This one turned out to be unfortunate. It obviously was a drastic consequence for the Detroit Red Wings. There are other examples, Pittsburgh was unhappy with the Ovechkin goal right off the faceoff after the Malkin penalty. They thought it was interference. I could see that as well too. You could pull out a ton of them. There is a high stick there, a punch there. Should this guy have gotten suspended. It's tough, and it's complicated.

The players blow off steam and bite their tongues, and so do the coaches, and say we can only complain so far. That's the way sports are. You have to be a big boy about it and continue on.

 

[Q] There was a report about the competition committee being very close to recommending 4-on-4 play in overtime after 1 OT playoff period. Even if the competition committee passes this, do you see this being approved by the NHLPA or the board of govenors?

[BE] That is a tough question. I don't know. I am kind of glad they are going in that direction after 1 period or 2 (OT) periods at least. I would definitely be in favor of it. I go back over some overtime games over the last few years and I think it loses something when it goes on too long. The wear and tear on the players is really dramatic too.

I would be fine with it after 2 periods, I guess I would be fine with it after 1 overtime period too. The drama of 4-on-4, and the wide open hockey we get I think would be great. Whether or not it is going to pass right away? I don't know. Sometimes these things get turned down and then the more you think about it, it is a political thing almost. People who like it or don't like it discuss it a lot. It either builds momentum or it loses it.

I think the NHL has been very innovative since the lockout, in coming out with the changes that they made, and to follow it up with this. I think this is probably more of a progressive attitude, or more of a willing attitude to change since the lockout. I wouldn't doubt that this could go through.

Wear and tear on players is dramatic, but also interest too. By the time a game gets to the third overtime, I start going this is great and the drama is wonderful but someone has to score here. There is only so much time people have to donate to a game. That's my opinion. Others would say I would watch for 8 hours, this is great. I think most people would reach a point they would say let's get a winner here. That's why I think the 4-on-4 opens things up, and I think you would see results more quickly in that situation.

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I just don’t know how people can draw any conclusions of how a playoff 4-on-4 overtime would go — probably the worst thing to do is assume that it would be similar to what we see in the regular season.

For one, there is no penalty for losing in 4v4 overtime in the regular season. None. In the postseason, it is super-tragic. I doubt we’d see the same strategy because of this, and I doubt we’d see the same hockey.

Also, in the regular season there is the notion of “if we do this long enough, there will be a shootout” which should alter team strategy, especially for teams that are particularly good or bad at the shootout skill itself. There would and should be no such thing in the postseason.

I have no idea, really, why this is even up for debate. If you’re not excited by playoff overtime now, fucking gimmicks aren’t going to get you there. All that really will result is pissing off everyone who does love it. And fucking league — they are so goddamn clueless about every fucking important thing, we’ll probably have it within the next few years. Without any fan input. Without any minor league trials.

Assholes.

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by Earl Sleek on May 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All you need to do is look back to the Sharks-Dallas four overtime game last year. Every minute that game went on more people turned on tv’s, more people started dialing up the game on the radio or on the internet.

The excitement of that game alone capped off a 6-game series with 4 overtime games and 5 one goal games. The more overtimes the better works for casual fans, hardcore fans, and non-fans alike. The NHL does not to stop tinkering and some point. Open up the ice by 5 feet on all sides or do nothing.

by pj48 on May 7, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The worst part about 4 on 4

is that the first team to get a power play will likely win. killing a 4 on 3 is very low sucess rate vs. 5 on 4.

Giving the ref’s the power to basically decide a playoff game would be a very stupid course to take.

by Mike in OC on May 8, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

Don’t be blue panda bear. I have to believe cooler heads will prevail in this instance. Somebody, probably a player like Shanahan (someone, obviously, with Wing ties because our guys are the only ones with influence, common sense, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera…it’s a joke bitches. relax) will have to inject some sanity into this conversation.

Playoff OT is the most torturous thing I’ve ever lived through, including marriage to my first wife and that was fucking….god, it was horrible. But it’s what really separates our game. The stress is like nothing else anywhere.

4-4 would render it a gimmicky feel that we should try to avoid at all costs. If this happens Bettman will be to blame, just like he’s to blame for everything that ills our game and our world.

by a2y on May 8, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, not only would it be gimmicky, I’m not even sure it would accomplish what is intended (faster decisions) — we probably don’t even have data that properly will show what perpetual 4-on-4 with real consequences would look like. It’s quite possible that with a non-shortened bench and a tangible fear of goals-against that Engblom’s dream could end up with nothing but a long series of 1-on-3 rushes.

Remember, in every 4-on-4 situation we’ve ever seen, there’s been a limited amount of time that needs to be dealt with — usually 2 minutes in regulation and 5 minutes in an OT. In those cases, it’s easy for a coach to summon his best players to try to cover all that time, but if there’s no set limit, it won’t be “best players all the time” — coaches will have to manage their bench for a long haul.

But no matter what, you’re right — there’s no reason and no excuse that the NHL should be touching one of its finest traditions and most exciting moment (and frankly, a huge momentum shifter in a best-of-seven). If the league wants to disregard the wishes of what seems like a giant majority of fans, then I dunno — I’ll definitely feel less compelled to be a part of it.

I heard that Shanahan, btw, is supportive of this 4v4 nonsense, but I can’t cite it — it’s possible I’m misremembering or making shit up. Regardless, yes — players need to be a vocal part of this, too.

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on May 8, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, and if anyone is interested

I was actually on LCS Hockey’s radio show last night. I probably should promote it more, but I thought I was rather mediocre. Still, if you’ve got some time to kill, it’s available.

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on May 7, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we please take this down? It didn’t work. It may have hurt…

UNRELATED: Handel is the most overrated composer ever...

by Bleys on May 7, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, PJ. No Shark karma necessary for G5. :)

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on May 7, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes you think it didn’t work?

by pj48 on May 8, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This may be the worst post in BOC’s three year history, but damn this song is awesome.

by pj48 on May 8, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as how I’ve been writing for BoC for about 2, there’s no way that statement is true.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wizard- I am Blackwolf the Dragonmaster, and don’t you forget it!
Triumph= Alright! And don’t you forget to finish your Filet O’ Fish- Dragonmaster!
Wizard- Oh, quiet!
Triumph- Burger King, where all Dragonmasters eat!

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on May 8, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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