Yeah, I'll Stay Skeptical On This One
by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
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Andy Strickland is claiming/reporting/pulling out of his ass that Chris Pronger has been traded to the Kings for Jack Johnson, the 5th overall, and some other stuff. I don't know much about Strickland other than he writes for Eklund's site and is therefore tainted, but if I'm going to be anxious the rest of the day then you should too. If this is true, though, then I think it's a great deal for the Ducks and an OK deal for the Kings.
Update: Helene Elliot said in an e-mail that the Ducks denied the trade completely, so now it's been denied on both the LA and Anaheim side. I still get the feeling that they're just trying to delay until the playoffs are over, but we'll see. The important thing is that we can all go about our day. Phew. I'm exhausted.
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Crucial Update
Strickland updated his report and added a “?” to the end of his headline. This is bullshit, I had a whole bunch of things I was going to do today and now I’m going to spend it staring at his page and pressing the reload button every 30 seconds.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
…And now he’s taken the post down. Apparently the guy just wanted to get my blood pressure up.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rudy, the only way to respond is tit for tat. Start spreading blatantly fabricated rumors about Strickland, Eklund, Bruce Garrioch and all the other rumormongers, then see how well they like it.
For instance, did you know that Eklund is going to fire Strickland after Strickland resisted Eklund’s untoward sexual advances?! E4!!!
by Alexander Dubcek on Jun 12, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read that the exact same package in the hypothetical deal for Pronger was offered for Heatly on TFP.
I guess we should all hold off on purchasing that Kings Jack Johnson jersey.
by Mike in OC on Jun 12, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, he may have been asked to take it down until the playoffs are over. Or 1,000 different things. All I really know right now is that I need a drink.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now he’s updated it: Pronger’s still in it, but Jack and the 5th are gone. I guess the Kings are getting him for free?
…Goddammit, I was going to go to the beach today.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way Jack Johnson truly is as much of a pain in the ass as he seems?
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by jamestobrien on Jun 12, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, he just looks like one so it’s easy to assume that he’s a douche bag.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just hoping it’s true for the sake of future entertainment on this site.
Prediction: Strickland gets booed.
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by Dominik on Jun 12, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Score has gone with the story as well, with Pronger going to the Kings and Johnson and the 5th going to Anaheim.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tom Petty’s “The Waiting is the Hardest Part” just came on at work. So true, Tom, so true…
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They just reported the Pronger for Johnson & #5 on Tha Fan590am in Toronto, too. Rich Hammond is saying that it’s not true over at Inside The Kings.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 12, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hooray for Rich Hammond! He has a post up with a textfrom Dean Lombardi saying, “Rumors not true.” Now if only Dean Lombardi wasn’t a known liar…
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now if only Dean Lombardi wasn’t a known liar…
Exactly. Hammond should not forget how Dean pulled the wool over his eyes while the O’Sullivan/Williams trade was going down…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 12, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm understanding correctly
Nobody can confirm a trade until tomorrow, or after the playoffs, correct? All of these denials are just ways of holding off til tomorrow.
And what kind of deal would we sign Johnson to?
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by giants9107 on Jun 12, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They can make trades during the playoffs, it’s just that most people don’t so they don’t take away from the games. It’s tradition, I guess.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure? I could’ve sworn that the roster freeze stayed in effect for all teams, not just active ones, until the morning after the Cup was awarded.
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by Doogie2K on Jun 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, should have written it better: teams can make trades during this time, but can’t really make anything official until after the playoffs. It’s like how players sign at 12:01 on July 1st; they probably had their deal locked up weeks before, but now it’s “official.”
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trades have been made and approved during the playoffs before, but they are generally small trades. I think the NHL traditionally never approves big trades during the playoffs, so as not to take away from their playoff coverage.
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by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 12, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I recall, correct me if I’m wrong Rudy, the Kings acquired Cechmanek by trade on the eve of Game 2 of the 2003 Stanley Cup Finals between the Ducks and Devils
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by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 12, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cechmanek was traded from Philly to the Kings on May 28th, 2003
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't find it on their webpage
but apparently Pronger appeared on the Sportsnet channel up North this past hour and said that the rumor is not true.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 12, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never seen a rumor with legs like this fail to come to life.
Lecavile, Heatly, those are rumors. This thing broke all over Canada.
We’ll know by Sat night I guess.
by Mike in OC on Jun 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Duhatschek of the Globe and Mail reports that Bob Murray has also emphatically texted “NO” in response to a question of it the rumor was true.
by Alexander Dubcek on Jun 12, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I get the feeling we’ll find out in a few days that this rumor is untrue because the trade is really Johnson and next year’s 1st rounder for Pronger or something like that. Then people can argue semantics all day long.
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by RudyKelly on Jun 12, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now it has been denied by Murry and Lombardi. Adam Brady denied it as well on the Ducks site.
It has to be true.
by Mike in OC on Jun 12, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assess the merits
Puck Daddy commented on the non-trade, suggesting it was a trade that made sense for both sides, but I’m wondering what other folks (aside from Rudy, though he’s always welcome to offer more input) think about it.
Is Johnson plus No. 5 overall too much, too little or just right for one year of Pronger?
by Alexander Dubcek on Jun 12, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Way too much to offer for one year of Pronger...
unless there is a realistic shot of winning Lord Stanley’s Mug in 2010.
I love the Kings, but they ain’t anywhere close to that happening.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 12, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the GM’s are thinking what I think they’re thinking, this would have been a great move for both sides.
Pronger has very little value in a Kings sweater, but he’s priceless as currency in a trade. If the Kings are looking to nab a marquee player off of the trading block, they can get more with Pronger than they could with the pick and an RFA. His value is good if the Kings use him to acquire franchise talent, but it’s a bad move if he ever puts on a Kings sweater.
For the Ducks, I’m assuming they want a pure salary dump, here. Just by moving Johnson, I think the Kings are admitting he’s playing hard ball at the bargaining table. That means they could have sold him to the Ducks as a walking offer sheet, or at least a 60/40 likely offer sheet. That’s good for the Ducks because if they can’t sign him affordably, they take between 2 and 3 picks. At the end of the day, they move Pronger’s 6M for 4 quality picks. I’m thinking that’s exactly what they want if they’re using a budget next year.
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by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 12, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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