Goodbye Goc's Blog

by Mike Chen on Jun 29, 2009 9:49 PM PDT

With the release of Lukas Kaspar and Marcel Goc, that's two more first-round draft pick busts for the Sharks. It hasn't been pretty over the past decade, and today's release shows that the San Jose scouting staff hasn't hit many home runs -- and it's the end of Marcel Goc's brilliant blog. ("I went to the mall today. It was fun.") While the jury is still out on the 2006 and 2007 picks, the previous picks have left much to be desired. Let's review:

1999: Jeff Jillson -- Great offensive instincts don't mean anything if you can't skate. And for defensemen, the ability to skate backwards without falling over is, well, just a tad critical. But hey, he had a good shot in his limited NHL time.
2000: None
2001: Marcel Goc -- Good at face-offs, a decent penalty killer, and...um...that's about it. But hey, he helped fill out the requisite German quota after Marco Sturm left.
2002: Mike Morris -- How not to use a first round pick? On a guy who can't stick with the AHL for more than 17 games.
2003: Milan Michalek, Steve Bernier -- Bernier's still trying to find his way, though at least he gets a regular NHL shift. As for Michalek, he keeps showing frustrating flashes of brilliance but never seems to break through for consistency.
2004: Lukas Kaspar -- Other than consistent playing time for the Worcester Sharks, Kaspar never really did anything notable.
2005: Devin Setoguchi -- 31 goals in his second season makes Setoguchi the best of this bunch.
2006: Ty Wishart -- Traded for Dan Boyle
2007: Logan Couture, Nick Petrecki -- We shall see...
2008: None
2009: None

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by RudyKelly on Jun 29, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions

Seconded.

2009: None

Well, at least that pick stayed in the BoC. We’ll see if Barstool Bob did anything useful with it.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 29, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Draft

Gee I am so glad we took Kaspar at #22 when Mike Green went at #29

by Cheechew on Jun 29, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions

To be fair, Mike Morris’s problem stems from a car crash that happened after the draft. I’ve heard he actually has a fair amount of NHL talent when he does play, and if he didn’t have concussion problems he might be playing in the NHL as we speak (well, I mean, not right now obviously as its near the middle of the summer, but he’d be on an NHL team).

Oh, and Dan Boyle >>>>>>> Ty Wishart. That is all.

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by mymclife on Jun 30, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions

To be fair, Mike Morris’s problem stems from a car crash that happened after the draft.

+ 10

by buddahead9 on Jul 9, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t keep a close eye, but do you think Milan Michalek’s inconsistency might be a lingering effect of having his brain blasted out of one ear by Raffi Torres in the playoffs a few years ago?

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by Doogie2K on Jun 30, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions

It’s probably the Oilogosphere’s influence, but I think about those hits constantly when double-M carries the puck. It’s tough to say how much it’s affected his game, really, but the guy’s stoic demeanor makes him seem always in some kind of imagined stupor.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 30, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions

2003

It’s less about who we got and more about who we didn’t get (see: Ducks).

by JesseSeg on Jun 30, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions

Amazingly

Getting two top 6 forwards out of 10 first round draft picks is actually pretty good considering the Sharks draft position. Drafting outside the top 10 or so picks is such a waste of time.

Good luck with those two late first rounders you got for Pronger, Duck fans. Maybe you guys will get lucky and draft the one guy in the last ten picks of the first round that actually makes the NHL.

Late first round picks=most overvalued commodity in the NHL

by ruben398 on Jun 30, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions

Maybe you guys will get lucky and draft the one guy in the last ten picks of the first round that actually makes the NHL.

Like Corey Perry?

I understand your cynicism — not every draft pick will work out, that’s a given. Doesn’t mean the smart move is to stop gambling on them.

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by Earl Sleek on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Not really, more like:

Logan MacMillan, Brian Wesenberg, Michael Holmvqist, Marc Popovic, Tim Brent, Jordan Smith.

(full disclosure: I had to use a few top 5 second round picks… Anaheim hasn’t had many late 1st rounders b/c they have drafted rather early in process historically. If you want, I could post the Wing’s 1st round picks from the past few years (as they are considered a good drafting team). It ain’t pretty except for Nick Kronwall.)

So, you might get a Corey Perry… but you probably won’t. I’m not saying the trade still wasn’t a win for the Ducks, but it wasn’t because of the picks. The smart money is on dumping these overvalued commodities, not on acquiring them.

And using the draft class of 2003 to prove the value of draft picks is like telling kids to not go to college because Kobe and Lebron didn’t and they are rich. That draft was probably the most talented in modern history. Only one player from that entire 1st round didn’t make the NHL. Teams could have picked that first round from a hat.

by ruben398 on Jul 1, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

True on 2003, but I’m still not sure what’s terribly overvalued about first-round picks, even late ones. They’re relatively costless and do form a farm system that yields cheap talent, which seems necessary especially for non-cap-ceiling teams.

I’m not sure what this argument is about, really, but whatever. If you don’t want picks that seem valueless, tell Wilson to send ’em our way.

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by Earl Sleek on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Topic: Value of trading for 1st round picks

When you trade for a 1st round pick, it obviously is not costless. It can be over (or under) valued just like a player or prospect.

Once that is obvious, their value becomes a matter of awareness/acceptance of risk. In my infinitely awesome opinion, I think a 20% hit rate is awful which make them a poor value in a trade. But whatevs, I’m (almost) a lawyer so my opinion shouldn’t be trusted.

by ruben398 on Jul 2, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions

Well, this guy has probably put more work into determining a value for the picks than you or I have. I don’t mind having a late first-rounder as part of a return in a trade, even fully knowing that it could pan out to be nothing. Sometimes you still have to put a value on probability.

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by Earl Sleek on Jul 2, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions

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