UFA Day Open Thread
by Earl Sleek on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 PM PDT
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Well, it's July 1st, the day when lots of signings happen and lots of dollars get committed, but probably the first day where teams can really blow it. I think more Stanley Cups get lost than won on UFA Day, but that doesn't mean that is isn't exciting for hockey fans. There's lots of players changing uniforms, lots of half-baked rumor-wishes, and there's bound to be plenty of surprises.
I'll be around most of the morning, and we'll try to keep this updated somewhat, with big signings across the league or small signings that impact the BoC. Don't count on a comprehensive list -- go here for that -- but gives us a place for reaction and outrage. And other BoC writers? Feel free to add to this as you wish (more recent signings on top).
July 2nd Signings:
12:45 pm: Dean Lombardi finally makes a UFA splash. The Kings sign UFA defenseman Rob Scuderi from the Penguins, allegedly for 4 years, $3.4M per. Also, a few defensemen signed earlier today in the Pacific Division: Phoenix Coyotes sign Adrian Aucoin, 1 year, $2.25M. Dallas Stars sign Karlis Skrastins, 2 years, $1.38M per.
10:15 am: Compared to yesterday's deal-a-minute frenzy, this morning has been awfully quiet. Perhaps GMs are remembering the curse of the contract signed on July 2nd -- remember, that's the date when Burke signed Bertuzzi.
8:50 am: Some signings as of this morning:
- Havlat is confirmed with the Minnesota Wild, sorry Kings. 6 years, $5M per.
- The Atlanta Thrashers sign Nik Antropov, 4 years, $4M per.
- The Boston Bruins and Mark Recchi agree to a Selanne-style extension. 1 year, $1M, plus presumably some incentives.
July 1st Signings:
9:45 pm: Stuff that came in late today:
- Former Kings goalie Mathieu Garon signs in Columbus, 2 years, $1.2 per.
- Former Kings goalie Jason Labarbera signs in Phoenix, 2 years, undisclosed (but too much, I'm sure)
- Brian Gionta, never a King, signs onto the Montreal experiment, 5 years, $5M per.
- Chris Neil re-signs in Ottawa, 4 years, $2M per.
- John Madden signs in Chicago, 1 year, $2.75M.
- Apparently Marty Havlat will be signing in Minnesota soon, plus possibly Saku Koivu.
- I guess Dany Heatley has not been traded.
5:23 pm: Marian Gaborik signs a 5 year, $7.5 million dollar a year deal with the New York Rangers. It's amazing, it's like Bob Gainey threw Glen Sather a life preserver and then Sather proceeded to eat it. Now he's treading water with a full stomach. That doesn't make sense. (RK)
4:05 pm: Well, that may be about it for the day. Regardless, I'm heading out the door for a dinner and won't be back to update until later tonight. Feel free to keep yourself up-to-date in the comments.
3:20 pm: Apparently the Columbus Blue Jackets are the one to stick a knife in Sleek's heart: they sign former Duck Sammy Pahlsson to a 3 year contract, $2.65M per. Damn.
3:00 pm: Tough to know what's real any more, but it looks like some d-men have been scooped up. Toronto steps up and signs Mike Komisarek from the rival Canadiens, details to come (5 years, $4.5M per, according to my new pal Twitter). The Minnesota Wild signs Greg Zanon from the Nashville Predators for 3 years, $1.66M per. Even the cash-strapped Phoenix Coyotes get in the mix: they sign F Vernon Fiddler from Nashville for 2 years, $1.1M per. It's not all losses for Nashville, though; they re-sign F Steve Sullivan to a 2-year deal, $3.75M per.
2:35 pm: A big signing + a big trade. Former King Mike Cammalleri signed a 5-year pact with the Montreal Canadiens, $6M per. Good luck with that, Habs. Also, more details to come, but the Toronto Maple Leafs have traded D Pavel Kubina to the Atlanta Thrashers for D Garnet Exelby, with presumably more pieces. Overall the move should save Poppa Burke some $2M on their salary cap -- interesting to see what he'll do with that.
2:15 pm: The Sharks make a signing! Former Duck d-man Kent Huskins (Huskins Time!!!) has re-signed in San Jose -- two years, $1.7M per. Somebody confirm my faulty memory -- that means that the Ducks get a better draft pick out of the Sharks from last year's deadline day deal, right? So basically, now Kent gets two more years to eventually make his Shark debut. Also, Koci to Colorado - 1 yr, $575k.
1:45 pm: A couple more -- G Scott Clemenson, who filled in admirably for an injured Brodeur last season, has signed a 3-year deal with the Florida Panthers, $1.2M per. Former King forward Ian Laperriere has signed with the Philadelphia Criminals, 3 years, $1.17M per. And according to my TV, Mike Rupp, one of the most despicable players on the planet (see 2003 cup finals, G7), has signed with the Penguins. Hal Gill to the Canadiens seems a done deal as well -- 2 years, $2.25 per.
1:00 pm: Have the Habs taken themselves out of Beauchemin-ville? Montreal Canadiens sign D Jaroslav Spacek to a 3-year deal, $3.83M per. On the goaltending front, my TV keeps saying that G Nikolai Khabibulin is headed to fill Roloson's vacancy on the Oilers -- oops, now it's done: 4 years, $3.75M per. Also, F Eric Cole re-signs for two years in Carolina, $2.9M per.
12:30 pm: Sharks lose their back-up goalie. The Philadelphia Flyers bolster their Emery-goaltending plan by signing Brian Boucher to a 2 year deal, $925k per. Also, the Nashville Predators make a nice re-signing: forward Joel Ward re-signs for 2 years, $1.5M per.
12:07 pm: As expected, Scott Niedermayer signs a one year deal with the Anaheim Ducks, reportedly worth $6M plus incentives. Definitely I'll have more on that later this week.
12 noon: Some east-coast shuffling. Washington Capitals make a shrewd signing -- F Mike Knuble from the Pronger-filled Flyers for 2 years, $2.8M per. NY Rangers make a questionable signing -- enforcer Donald Brashear from WSH for 2 years, $1.4M per. Also, the cable guy who was supposed to upgrade one of my receivers is now officially late.
11:50 am: Former Duck on the move -- Buffalo Sabres sign defenseman Steve Montador to a 2 year deal worth $1.55M per year. A quality signing for a reasonable amount, I think -- recall my post from earlier last season celebrating the contributions of Montador.
11:35 am: More goalie moving -- NY Islanders sign G Dwayne Roloson from EDM for 2 years, $2.5M per. It would be an even stronger signing had they not committed so much money to Rick Dipietro a few summers ago.
11:10 am: Things are picking up:
- Tampa Bay adds another blueliner, Matt Walker from Chicago -- 4 years, $1.7 per.
- St. Louis Blues add some goaltending experience in Ty Conklin (especially in outdoor games and losing cup finals) -- 2 years, $1.3M per.
10:50 am: A few big ones:
- Word is that Marian Hossa has signed with the Chicago Blackhawks -- reportedly 12 years, $5.2M per year. More to come, but wow. Chicago also added DET F Tomas Kopecky on a 2-year deal.
- Florida Panthers extend forward David Booth for 6 years at about $4.25M per year -- that could be a big comparable for Bobby Ryan's next contract.
- Colorado Avalanche help shore up their netminding with Craig Anderson -- 2 year deal, $1.8M per.
10:15 am: Burke stays true to form. After a ho-hum re-signing of Radek Dvorak by the Florida Panthers (2 yrs, $1.7M per), Brian Burke made his first UFA splash as GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. Predictably, Poppa Burke went after muscle, signing enforcer Colton Orr to a 4-year deal at $1M per year. A slightly more expensive, less moustached George Parros -- watch your back, Northeast Division.
9:15 am: Mattias Ohlund goes to babysit Hedman. Tampa Bay Lightning sign defensemean Mattias Ohlund from Vancouver to a 7 year deal worth $3.75M per year. A quality d-man that's no longer the western conference's worry (and knowing the Lightning, he might not be a huge eastern conference worry either).
8:25 am (35 minutes til zero hour): The Sedin Twins stay put. Vancouver Canucks re-sign Daniel and Henrik to identical 5-year deals worth $6.1M per year (each). Which puts them each about $800k higher than the Getzlaf and Perry 5-year deals from last summer, which makes me pretty happy. Still, Canucks will be a twin-sized pain in the Western Conference for five more years, it seems.
8:00 am (1 hour til zero hour): Anaheim Ducks re-sign Erik Christensen to a 1-yr, $750k deal. Who would have believed that GM Barstool Bob would have been the first to get a deal in on July 1st, even if it is minor? What's nice about this deal for the Ducks is that EC didn't get a qualifying offer with a mandatory 5% raise; instead he signed for the same dollar amount as last season. Not a big-impact move in any sense, but a decent fill-in to round out a roster. Will he be the only player who covets #26, I wonder?
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i predict the ducks do aboultly nothing and frankie signs with boston or somthing..
i want a prize if im right..maybe a rudy kelly cartoon of me….
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions
i predict the ducks do aboultly nothing
Actually, I’d be kind of surprised and kind of worried if Scott Niedermayer didn’t sign some sort of deal today.
Then again, it is Scotty. Maybe he needs a few more months.
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cue the scotty in line cartoon
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Good.
I don’t even WANT them to do anything unless they can get Saku Koivu for a good price. Otherwise, just resign Beauchemin, Marchant, and Niedermayer(s).
It's an e3!!!
That Koivu will either play with his brother or with Selanne. Must be true then! Hahah.
yo earl why arent we more on the scuderi bandwagon..i heard of some teams loking at him not us…he would be a good replacement for frankie..if he leaves..he was solid all year…i saw a lot of him
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 AM PDT reply actions
Not included in today's signings timeline
But perhaps significant nonetheless.
8:30 am: Sleek signs up for a Twitter account to follow Mirtle’s updates.
8:32 am: Before he can type a thing, Sleek acquires 4 “followers”.
8:34 am: Sleek leaves one Tweet calling his 4 followers “suckers” and decides that’s enough Tweeting for Day One.
I’m quite confused by it all.
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you were able to get a picture up and follow like 40 people….that was more than i was able to do when i first started…damn that you were busy
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
means when u type in that big box at the top..asking you what you are up to..it pops up on my screen (sinceim following you)…so i.e. you type in there…i just jerked off and nutted on my keyboard…i would know
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I don’t really know how it happened, but when I signed up Twitter looked through my e-mail account and gave me like 100 choices of people to follow — I whittled it down to names I recognized.
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o i dont rememebr that…crazy
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for adding me, but I have no idea how to use twitter yet. I am just going to give the login to max, darryl and gail and maybe use the button on flickr to post links to photos. Maybe I can set it up to post messages via phone.
No TSN “Free Agent Frenzy” on the NHL Network or Versus?
NHL Network is doing NHL Live, with E.J. Hradek talking a lot of deals.
Probably it’s OK — they’ll be able to react to deals as they move in. I’d rather have a late-night recap show, anyways.
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NHL live until 2PM EST, then it moves to the TSN feed, here on NHL Network.
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Mattias Ohlund to Tampa Bay Lightning, 7 years for I think 3.75 average per year (front loaded of course) from TSN. Ohlund is a solid pickup. Add that to Hedman and it is a 360 from last year’s blueline situation.
“Strong chance” Scott Niedermayer reups with the Anaheim Ducks, San Jose Sharks have expressed some interest.
Seven years is waaaaaay too long to sign Ohlund for. Dude’s gonna be 39 when that contracts done.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know Ohlund’s mindset very well, but if I had to guess, I’d wager Ohlund is retired in Sweden before the time that contract’s done.
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I am going to retire in Sweden when my contract is done. They did the 7 years most likely to bring down the contract hit.
Not sure how I added a photo to the front page, meant to add one here.
Don’t sweat it — I don’t think there will ever be a day when we fully understand the SBN technology behind these blogs.
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I’m in charge of Cycle Like Sedins for the morning! James says he’s “busy” or something. I just posted my free agent preview for the Wings. Mostly it was bitching about what the Ducks might do with trading Giguere, Pronger, or signing Hossa.
Someone give me some gay porn to slap all over the site!
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Mirtle's tweet:
Chicago in talks with Marian Hossa
James O’Brien, in particular, has been trumpeting the cap crunch that Chicago will be in come next summer. I’m sure Hossa’s contract wishes will in no way impact that. :)
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If they do it, its an extremely short sighted move. I’m not that worried about CHI as future western conference foes, because their cap situation is ridiculous. This year they have a little bit of a reprieve, with a lot of entry level contracts and such, but next year and the year after, its going to turn into a big giant mess. The fact that they threw a ton of money at Huet and now they want to trade him is absolutely silly to me.
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Mirtle says Radek Dvorak to Florida for 2yrs 1.7M/yr
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That one might matter to nostalgic Oilers fans, but probably not major enough to make the big list.
There’s some noise that Kovalev has re-signed in Montreal, also.
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There’s some noise that Kovalev has re-signed in Montreal, also.
Apparently 2 years 8.8 mil, if you believe the Tweets.
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Twitter you back-stabbing whore
Now the Kovalev Tweeting situation looks like this:
CKAC reporting Kovalev and Habs “aren’t close” but still talking according to agent
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:::yawn:::
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
hey, theres nothin else to talk about right now. the floodgates probably open in about another hour.
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we can talk about boobs…theres always that
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We were talkin about Megan Fox for like an hour last night at work. My jaw dropped in the first transformers movie when she started workin under the hood of Sam’s Camaro. I still haven’t seen the second one yet.
Boobs are just the best though. I hate going downtown on weekends, cause its a damn zoo, but there’s a lot of nice racks walking around Denver.
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yea that hood scene is a classic…i wish they made a poster of that scene…theres gotta be someone who can make somthing like that happen
yea the real vs fake argument on boc a couple months back was a classic blog..that need to be archived and made readily available for all newcomers…
some other classics where the rudys perry cartoon
sleeks braveheart murray blog
and the tombstone duck comparison…which is the gold standard
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
My roommate told me the other day, and I shit you not, “Megan Fox isn’t hot, dude. Like, she’s not Jennifer Aniston or anything.” I would have punched him in his Goddamn face if I hadn’t been so taken aback by such blasphemy.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
you need do your roomate how william wallace was done at the end of braveheart…thats an enexcusable offensive to utter such words
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The key thing to know about Radek Dvorak is that back in the day when the Battle of Alberta blog was regularly active, EDM blogger Sacamano used to write a gameday post for each Oilers game, which inspired the gameday posts you see on this site. Sacamano had an irrational devotion to Dvorak (D-Vo), and predicted him to score in nearly every game, sort of as a running joke.
So as much fun as it was for me to predict a Pahlsson goal for every game prediction, I have to admit it’s not an original gag. D-Vo was the original Sammy.
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Something for you all to watch if you're stuck at work
Here’s the link to the NHL channel’s free agent show
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Rumors are Craig Anderson to the Avs for 2 years. I would guess the cash would be in the 3.5M/yr range on that. Great deal for Avs if its true. i still don’t know why they resigned Budaj.
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Also heard on Twitter:
FLA signed David Booth to a 6-yr contract extension.
Don’t forget that today is also the first day where teams can negotiate extensions for next year’s RFAs/UFAs. In theory, Bobby Ryan could sign his next contract any day now (but I’m not holding my breath, nor do I think it’s probably the best option to decide on that today).
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If I’m Murray, I’m apologizing for Burke keeping him off the team, and offering him marriage rights to my daughter if he would please just stay.
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I’m not terribly sure that Ryan is still bitter about last year’s AHL time, but who knows? I’m very very curious to see what Booth got for his 31 goals — that could be a big benchmark deal.
Here’s the link to the KK story so far.
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just posted 24M
so thats 4M/yr cap hit
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$4.1 or so, I think. I haven’t checked Booth’s numbers very much, but I think that’s a very good comparable for the Ducks to bring up whenever they get to B. Ryan extension talks.
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Of course, Ryan will likely point out a certain 8.7M comparable…
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I think that one can be quickly thrown out, though. What are they, like 200 points apart in their careers?
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True, but they’re also pretty far apart on GP, and thats not entirely Ryan’s fault. I wouldn’t hold it against him if he’s not too happy about that. I think he’d look for more than Booth. I’d say if you can get him signed for somewhere in the 5-5.5M range, thats a great deal.
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What may help is that both Getzlaf and Perry have identical $5.325M cap hits — that may serve as a natural salary ceiling for B-Ry (unless he can somehow show this season that he has passed them both).
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Yeah, thats something I’ve wondered about for the future of the Ducks and any forwards. Getzlaf and Perry are a great steal for that price. But I don’t know that you can use those two guys as an internal salary cap for individuals, like the Wings have done with Lidstrom. If they do, then wow, thats great to lock up that much talent that cheaply, but I think it would be really hard to do.
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But I don’t know that you can use those two guys as an internal salary cap for individuals, like the Wings have done with Lidstrom.
Maybe not for individuals (Scott, Chris, and J.S. all made more last year), but I could see it for the forwards. I don’t know why Bobby Ryan would be looking to make more, really, especially if next year’s cap moves south.
I may be completely out to lunch on this, but it seems so natural a comparison point I don’t know how it wouldn’t be considered in setting a salary.
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absolutely its a consideration. I think Ryan’s ceiling is higher than Perry’s though, not sure about Getzlaf.
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oh holy fuck
Hossa is a Blackhawk
No fuckin way
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afdadtgsdfdsfsd
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fuck you Hossa
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Keep in mind that the Hwaks get a lot of cap room with Khabibulin coming off their books this summer
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but next summer Kane, Toews, and Keith are all getting raises.
It may not be that crazy a question to ask — it’s tough to see how Chicago will be the team paying all those raises.
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Counting Hossa (guessing a 5.25M hit) for next offseason, it would be 8 players signed, for about 34M. That’s 4 forwards, 3 defense, 1 goalie. Versteeg + Barker need deals this year, and next year Kane, Toews, and Keith need deals. To say nothing of filling out the rest of the roster.
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Well, I guess there’s one less blueliner in Chicago, though probably not big-impact.
Per Twitter, the Lightning have signed another blueliner besides Ohlund:
Lightning have added Matt Walker on a four-year, $6.8-million deal.
OK.
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Even still. You have 12 forwards, 6 defense, 2 goalies = 20 players. 22M to sign another 12 players, several of which are your big stars. If you let one of those stars go, its a huge blow to the team, and you still need to fill that roster spot for super cheap.
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Kopecky got a 2 year deal, 1.2M/yr. That means over 35M committed to 9 players now, and 20-21M for the other 11. Even if a trade is made, this will be hard to fill.
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Jesus fuck
McGuire won’t get fucking CHI’s cock out of his mouth. “OH MY GOD YOU GUYS, THE BALANCE OF POWER HAS SHIFTED. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WEST IS LOOKING AT CHICAGO SAYING OH NO HOW ARE WE GOING TO COMPETE?”
Fucking hate you McGuire. If I ever get the chance, I’m stabbing you.
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hehe funny shit
12 years though? wtf?
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
heavly front loaded
53 mil of it is the first 7 years.
So that means Hossa will hold out in year 8 and demand a new contract or a trade. If he’s not dead from natural causes by then.
funny thing about the NHL:
you can’t do that. contracts cannot be renegotiated, even if both sides want to do it.
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No, but he can retire before the contract is over and have collected more than an equitable share of his contract full value.
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I’m with you on Favre
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and the good thing is
if the media all starts jocking CHI, it will weed out the douch bag -bang wagon wing fans and lower some of your teams ridiculous expectations.
all good I think.
Kane-Toews-Hossa is a downright scary fucking line!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
until its the entire team occupying 56.8M in cap space
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I’m talking about it over at Mirtle’s, but I wonder how this is going to work. Vinny had a deal struck down by the CBA, and he and TB had to renegotiate it. Something similar may happen with Hossa. There’s rules about how much the salary can change from year to year, and with it being sooooo heavily frontloaded, they might break one of those rules, making the contract invalid, and he would be a free agent again. Tell Dean-o to keep workin the phone!
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Per my understanding, so long as the salary one year is at least half of the salary the previous year, I think it’s legit — though it’s probably more complicated than that.
I don’t think it’s that difficult to front-load a contract appropriately under the CBA — shouldn’t be a deal breaker.
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I can’t remember the rule, so you may be right. But I’ve never thought most NHL GM’s to be too smart, and the latest things to go on in Edmonton have just confirmed that suspicion. Everyone else is retarded, and BoC should just be given control of a team as part of a massive social experiment.
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Frolov and Pahlsson would both get $10 million/year contracts and then be released from them after they file sexual harassment charges.
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Would Pahlsson returning to Earl count as sloppy seconds, after the dirty Blackhawks had him? Also, would someone get suspended for referring to him as sloppy seconds?
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It almost counts as sloppy seconds — don’t forget that Pahlsson’s also been an Av and a Bruin before in his career.
But it’s not quite the same — Pahlsson never did play against Anaheim — that’s a big deal.
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Now TSN is saying is 59.3 over the first 8, 3.5 over the last 4.
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Seems doable. I was just messing around with a spreadsheet, and it’s quite possible to get really skimpy on the last years (if structured correctly). In fact, one big limiter would be to make sure that the last couple of years meet the expected league minimum amount.
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Kubina reportedly traded to ATL from TOR. Who the hell on ATL does TOR want? Armstrong is the only one I could think of.
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Every single Leaf Fan will sincerely tell you that Ilya Kovalchek for Kubina is a fair deal and that Burke should settle for nothing less…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Granted, Kubina is a monster defenseman. If only he played in a market where he could get some exposure, oh wait…
I agree pj
Kubina & Boyle were awesome on the blueline together in 2004 for Tampa. But we are talking about the same fanbase that expected to get back Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fluery and Jordan Staal when they traded away Hal freakin’ Gill last season
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Conklin news on Twitter, too!
Ty Conklin Signs 2 yr. deal with Blues. $1.3 million average
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Saw on TV — Roloson signs for 2 years on the Island? Interesting — I for one would be glad to see Pop-O-Mask move off my radar.
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I think its a decent signing. Roli can certainly play, just not every night. Go get a backup if DP gets hurt, and you’re set.
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It is a decent signing, but it highlights all the more how bad a signing Dipietro was.
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This will certainly help get DiPietro healthy for the last 11 years of his contract…
If someone bails Chicago out of that Huet deal I might kill someone.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
I can see Edmonton being that asshole.
So true.
Let’s hope they are stuck in limbo waiting to find out if they get Heater or not.
I liked Huet in Montreal.
He ain’t worth his deal.
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My TV said that former Duck Steve Montador is now a Buffalo Sabre. Nice pickup, depending on contract.
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My Twitter says 2 years.
Sabres have agreed with Steve Montador on a 2-year deal at $1.55 million per season.
That’s much more stomachable. He was a bargain last year at under a mil.
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Definitely. I think our odds of getting either increase as week turns to weekend.
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I’ve heard Frenchy’s name being thrown around in Montreal, since it looks like they’re gonna loss Komisarek.
Fuck you, Denis Gauthier. You suck at hockey... and life.
that could be a possiblity..his hiometown is close there right? i could see that
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Canadiens may have pulled themselves out of any Beauchemin bidding, if this Tweet is true:
Habs sign Jaroslav Spacek 3 years, $11.5 million
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thats good news..hate to see frankie go
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
1 year 6M for Scott in ANA per TSN
I dont get why they keep giving him 6M a year
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Plus bonuses.
“Keep giving him”? I dunno — it’s his second contract with Anaheim. The first one certainly made sense. The second one? I suspect Niedermayer has some obligations to the NHLPA to collect what looks to be a reasonable paycheck.
Works for me.
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I thought he was getting some resignings or something during the last two years of “will he or wont he” business? If not, then I guess the money he was collecting before wasn’t a choice.
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Yeah, those were more questions about “will he play out his contract?”, but yeah, that’s his original-Burke-lockout-contract that just expired.
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Plus he took 750k less than his last (cap hit anyway) contract, and THAT contract he gane us a discount to come here as well. He left money on the table from NJ then.
That 750k is what we paid Christensen. Pretty damn decent of him.
They said San Jose was interested in Rob Niedermayer, but didn’t they say SJ was also interested in Scott as well?
I think our spending is up to about $45 million now, but don’t think too hard about cap room — we’re not likely to spend to the ceiling.
I think I’ve heard we’re spending about $50 mil? So maybe $5M left to spend, depending of course if there’s a sucker to take Giguere off the books (hello, Kevin Lowe?).
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im curious to see if he moves or not…his number just seems so high..i just dont see it happening
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
If he returns to form, its a decent price for one of the best in the game. Thats a big if though. I think he ends up going to Toronto. If Burke can’t get that Gustavsson guy, its a done deal. If he gets him, ANA might be in a little trouble in trying to get rid of him sometime in the next year or so.
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I think my feeling is — if Giguere can be reasonably moved, go ahead and do it — yeah, it could burn us, but at this point, $6M on the bench burns us even more.
If not, though, it’s not the worst thing. I think the Ducks can still fill out pretty good with what they’ve got and maybe deal with any issues mid-season.
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OC Register reports that Saku Koivu would fit in nicely centering the Ducks 2nd line.
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I forgot that he and Selanne played together… That might play well for the Ducks.
Also it reports that Frenchie wants $4.5 million a year which seems a bit high, especially after missing nearly all of last season. And honestly, I think he was much better when he played with Niedermayer. I still remember when Niedermayer was mulling retirement, Beauchemin wasn’t too hot on his own. I thought the Ducks should have thought about trading him at the time… Niedermayer makes everyone look better.
yeah, I’m with you Wooster. I think Frenchy getting hurt saved him from getting moved. I guess we will see how good he is now because no way we pay that dude 4.5mil.
I woould prefer to have Wiz for much less.
because no way we pay that dude 4.5mil
I suspect nobody gives him that much. It’s good that the Ducks have taken the position “see if you can make your money UFA-style. Otherwise, you have our number.” I’d take him at around 3mil.
I woould prefer to have Wiz for much less.
Thank goodness it’s not really one-or-the-other. I suspect we’ll have Wiz for much less regardless of Frenchie’s future.
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Yeah, I’m all for the salary dump of Jiggy. However, that may be hard to pull off. I just don’t see anyone, even Toronto, taking on $6mil in salary without giving some back.
Yeah, I don’t think Burke goes for Jiggy unless he can send some salary back.
Which is OK — so long as it is salary that gets spent on the ice as opposed to on the bench, that should mean improvement.
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Yeah?? But is there anyone on Toronto we’d even want to consider taking?? Again I don’t follow the East. I think I can only name two players on Toronto (Toskala and Kaberle, and that’s just they’ve been in the news lately.)
I know for a fact that Doug Gilmour, Cujo, and Sundin aren’t on the team anymore – that shows you the last time I’ve actually seen Toronto play, huh??
Actually, with the way Burke has so passionately touted the value of cap space as a viable resource, and given that I doubt they would spend to the cap as a suckballs team, I would wonder if Burke wouldn’t be willing to take Giguere on without sending things the other way, if Anaheim included a prospect or draft pick. That’s how a pure salary dump works, is “we’ll give you the ugly contract plus a prospect or pick”, and I wouldn’t be that surprised if Burke were to take such a deal, if the Ducks were willing.
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Highest number of the day:
Number of uncomfortable pauses during Darryl Sutter/Jay Bouwmeester press conference.
I want frenchie and koivu.
Beauch is only 29, and if we can get him around 3 mil (I’d probably even pay a bit more, Earl), it’s a no brainer to me.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Koivu appears to be the best option for a 2nd line center. Even trading for Lupul, I think the ducks need more secondary scoring. I don’t really want to see Ebbett as a 2nd line center again, at least for a few more years. Seems like a huge vacancy to me.
Oh yeah, getting sammy back would be a bonus, too. I’m all for dumping Giggy to Toronto, even if we don’t get all that much in return except for “cap” room.
Joe was so correct ealier. Pierre McGuire’s pocket-throbber for the Blackhawks right now is so disgusting, even Rudy’s favorite cockfag would probably get turned off…
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no shit. Chicago will be good this year, probably, but after this year, they’re going to be hurting. And even though they’ve improved, to sit there and slobber on their cock about how big it is and how everyone else’s is smaller is just stupid.
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I totally agree. I also think thet are assuming that CHI is going to be so bad ass because they lost in the WCF, but if you ask me, they got lucky to get that far. Maybe this improvement only really makes them a “true” WCF team.
I would agree with that. they had some struggles against a pretty bad CAL team, and I think VAN was better than they played in that series, and CHI didn’t exactly win it in pretty fashion. Getting straight stomped by the Wings in the SCF wasn’t pretty either. There was no way they’d have beat the Ducks and probably not the Sharks either last year. Now? Sure, they’re a contender… for a year. They’ll be in the fight, but I don’t know that its enough.
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100% correct Mike...
Remember, they barely got passed Calgary in the playoffs this year. I think Beomeister’s impact in Calgary will have a much more profound effect on that team than Hossa will in the United Center…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Congrats on signing Nieds, Ducks fans. Not a surprising acquisition by any means, but solid nonetheless.
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hey, you just resigned Kent Huskins. 2 years, 1.7/yr per TSN.
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Not a surprising acquisition by any means, but solid nonetheless.
Can’t say the same thing about Rob Blake. Hee-hee
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa!
Per my TV, the Sharks have re-signed Kent Huskins to a 2-year deal. I think that impacts the draft pick that the Ducks get back in last year’s Huskins-Moen deal in a favorable way.
Kind of surprising, as Huskins couldn’t crack SJ’s lineup even once post-trade. I would have thought they would have gone after Moen more than Huskins Time.
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Its surprising, and I think its a bit of an overpayment. Huskins I think is a lot closer to a 1M player, but admittedly I don’t know the most about him. SJ has some big signings to make next year, and spending an extra 500K or 700K could be a pain in the ass 365 days from now.
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Exactly what we’re saying in our thread right now. Lukowich has to be on the move, because we’re fucking strapped for cash.
If you have time Sleek, I’d like to get a quote from you on the merits of the deal (since you’re much more familiar with him than I am). Either email or here?
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Yeah, I’ll give you something tomorrow. Today’s going to be a bit nuts for extra assignments.
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Thanks Sleek- I’ve got a piece up here if you want to chime in on it.
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Oh, and not even 365 days from now (although with Marleau/Pavelski/Setoguchi/Nabokov up for contract it’s questionable)- we’re talking this season as well.
Going into today we had 8 players to re-sign with a hair under 7 M available. This is with Clowe still out on the market as an RFA, mind you.
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I think its stupid that Clowe wasn’t taken care of already. I’m sorta surprised with the amount of seriously cap strapped teams out there that there haven’t been any RFA sheets yet. I’m 100% serious, if I was a GM, I’d have had offers sheets with Clowe, Kessel, and Hudler’s names next to the blank line at 11:59AM this morning. Let everyone else tell Marian Hossa how great he is and how they want to bend over for him, while you go and make the SMART moves.
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I agree in a sense, but there’s a few reasons I wouldn’t drop offer sheets on July 1:
1. It ties your hands for a week — GMs for the rival team don’t have to respond for a full week, and they can “fake commit” your money for the full week even if they plan on matching. Makes it harder to double-commit your money at a time when UFAs are getting signed.
2. The rival team might not be cap-strapped enough just yet — It may offer them the summertime window to “match then react” which might not be your ideal outcome. Let ‘em put more money into their roster so they’re really stuck before sticking it to them.
3. I think there’s some rule about only being allowed two offer sheets per summer (weird, but I think it mattered for what K. Lowe did after striking out on Vanek — he only had one move left). So even if you’re feeling crazy, best to figure out your two best bets, which might become more apparent after July 1.
So I think there’s some good reasons to hold off a few days.
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You are a smart dude, Earl. I’d pretty much forgotten about the issue of the opposing team gets to hold you in limbo for a week. I remember Burke did that when Penner got signed.
I wouldn’t really want to use UFA as a serious means of bringing it significant talent. If you go into it with a serious plan to make an agressive RFA pitch or two, and otherwise attempt to use UFA signings to pick up depth players for smaller money, it would be totally doable.
No clue about the number of offer sheets you can do in a single offseason. That would be an interesting note, depending where the line is.
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I thought Huskins still had the broken leg and by the time he was ready to go, the Ducks already eliminated them (or at least nearly did).
Yeah, that’s kind of accurate. He was cleared sometime early in the BoC series, I think, but not only did they already have a decent set of defensemen, but there was some dis-incentive built into the deadline-day trade.
Basically, I think that if the Sharks played Huskins last year, automatically they would have given a better draft pick to Anaheim. It wasn’t the deciding factor in who played, but I think it contributed to his non-appearance. My understanding of this pick is pretty shaky, though (there were like five paragraphs of “what ifs”), but I think it’s somewhat accurate.
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Is it just me or is Montreal the funniest franchise in the league? They’ve got like 10M left or something now, I think Mirtle said, and they’ve paid 11M for Gomez, Spacek, and Gill. What a joke. Go read some old newspaper clippings about Rocket Richard. As long as Gainey is around, those days are loooooong gone.
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Kubina for Exelby? Per my TV it represents $2M in cap savings for Burke’s Leafs.
Maybe for Giguere?
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions
Well, I knew it wasn’t likely that he’d return, but man — I’d hoped today’s Pahlsson winner would pay a bit more for the guy.
Now we have to play Sammy four times this year? It’s going to hurt — that’s for sure.
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yea that sux..wish he had gone east to be honest
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 1, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Khabibulin signing
Tyler Dellow once again puts a solid post together about how bad a move this likely is for the Oilers. Pretty much spot-on, by my eyes.
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I cannot express how disgusted I am with the Khabi signing
The Oilers basically need to luck on about five draft picks to ever have a chance because the management is so fucking stupid.
No kidding — I left a message on your site, but it almost seems that the Oilers brass took about 15 minutes after Roloson signed on the island to draft a “he’ll never refuse this” deal for Khabibulin.
Short-sighted doesn’t even begin to cover it. Sorry, man.
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Your article is awesome. Very well laid out and spot on.
Why does Roli end up at NYI for 2.6MIL x 2 years while EDM goes with Khabi? It SEEMS EDM would not offer 2.6 MIL for 2 years for Roli, but very willing to pay Khabi almost double that for twice as long.
Roli is better IMO.
Unless Roli just wanted out. Who knows…
Roli was apparently noticeably upset during his press conference about moving to NY. That also seems to be an Edmonton tradition.
Holy fuck
KK says that TSN has amended their story… its 5 years at SEVEN POINT FIVE
seriously
wtf
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I wonder how Lombardi feels when he’s talking to an agent and they come to him and say, “Sather’s offering me $7.5 for 5 years, wanna match it?” Does he try to be respectful and say, “I’m afraid I just can’t do that?” Does he laugh? Or, and this is what I think he does, he just silently hangs up the phone so the agent is left saying, “Hello?”
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by RudyKelly on Jul 1, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would laugh. Right in their faces.
What I wonder is what the players do. When the agent calls Gabby and says “Slats offers 7.5/yr for 5 years”, does Gabby just nod like its what he expected all along? Does he start laughing, telling his agent to get the contract signed between his tears? Do his eyes get all big and he’s all panicky, like he’s sitting on a winning lotto ticket and needs to turn it in before he loses it (or the GM wakes up)?
DL gets priced out of everything because frankly, he’s not stupid. Actually, I think hes a pretty good GM. Should see if you can’t still pry Lecavalier off the Kings, if you still want that Cadillac. Alternatively, get those offer sheets out for tomorrow. As a general rule, no one who is a UFA is ever worth what you need to pay to get them.
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On a phone call like that, I'm guessing Deano pulls one of these...
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 1, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry — next summer DL is going to wow us all. Maybe two summers from now, but it’s just around the corner I’m sure.
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what do mean there talking to biron…isnt that exciting…(laughing)
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 2, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
It can be a scary thing when your team promises a splash but then doesn’t deliver on day one. Sometimes I get worried about a “save face” reactionary move — “See? We did something.”, but often it seems just for the sake of getting something done.
So far Barstool Bob seems OK with not making any moves, but check out this OC Register post, which pretty much implies that there’s little hope for re-signing any of Beauchemin, Rob, or Marchant. Not a disaster, certainly, but hopefully he doesn’t get overly antsy to be visibly active. Ducks still need to finish off their roster, though, so we’ll see what Bob does. This quote makes me a little excited and a little nervous:
"I’m talking to a few people about a couple of interesting things," Murray said.
I’m totally reading too much into it, but to me, when a GM says “interesting”, it may involve Giguere plus a player we didn’t see coming.
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yea i saw that…i trust barstool..for some reason…i sense somthing good coming
three reason i like him
1. makes good moves..
2. passionate about the team i.e. throwing the stool after the loss or dispute
3. is irish so must drink like a mofo and talks funny
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 2, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh, Barstool Bob is an excellent name.
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My favorite post of the day over at ITK: something like
“Cammalleri can steer while Gionta works the pedals”
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wyshynskiOn Beauchamin from Pagnotta of TFP: Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Dallas, Buffalo … among others.
awww…i dont like it!!!
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
There’s too many teams. I don’t want to win that auction, not unless Beauchemin is offering a severe home team discount.
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yea that cant be a good sign…well good by frankie..hope u go to the east coast
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 2, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Great guy, solid player. He’ll do well for you guys. He’s basically a back-up goaltender with his shot-blocking abilities. Hated to see him leave town but no way Pitt could’ve held onto him.
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What does that give the Kings, 3 back-up goaltenders? May as well go after Marty Biron and round out the set. :)
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No, Marty Biron is a shot-blocking defenseman, and a bad one at that. Scuderi is the better back-up
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the kings read my comment on the ducks getting scuderi..mother fuckers..my roomate is gonna be mad
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 2, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that sets us up pretty well on D. One question though: How come nobody told me he was Rod Brindamour’s slightly slow twin?
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Sorry, meant to link this pic :http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2837
by Nut on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hey
That one isn’t very flattering.
Rob Scuderi is a thoroughly decent human being and the best goddamn 3-on-5 guy in the league, so just give him a little time before SoCal renders him soulless and plastic. :)
by Exceeding repeating on Jul 2, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Point taken. But not all of us are Kings fans — for me, the fact that he’s a useful penalty killer actually counts against him.
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well, like I said.
He’s from Long Island. Jordan Staal makes fun of him for his fashion sense. Who knows what Southern Cali. will do to the poor man? So the rest of the BoC has room to be optimistic as well!
by Exceeding repeating on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
at 3.4m a year, for 4 years, reportedly.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Jul 2, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So that’s almost $6.5 million tied up in Scuderi and Matt Greene. It’s expensive, but if those two can become Norstrom-Miller Redux then I’ll be very happy. I think Kyle Quincey is thinking, “Hey, that’s weird, I wonder who is going to have to switch sides now… wait, fuck.”
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Easier to lose a defensive prospect in a trade now.
by Nut on Jul 2, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The more I think about it (which isn’t really indepth), it almost seems as if the Sharks and Kings should try to work out a BoC trade. The Sharks need cap relief pretty desperately, and Kings have some cheaper pieces that could be levied for a more superstar-ish player.
Is Lombardi on good speaking terms with the Sharks? Or has his departure and Rob Blake’s turncoated-ness soured that route?
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I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday, for Ryan Clowe/Milan Michalek today…
by Nut on Jul 2, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, that robot chicken sketch ended with Wimpy having to give Popeye a blowjob, so…
I guess the Kings would have to give the Sharks a blowjob? Hot Kopitar on Thornton action.
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