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Three Games for Doan's hit on Sexton

So it looks like Shane Doan is getting a three game suspension on the hit on Dan Sexton.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=337851

I for one actually think it's pretty excessive. It was definitely a dangerous play and an example of what the league is trying to crack down on, but I was thinking it was going to be more like one game - maybe two max.

As silly as some of you may think I sound, I do think the outcome needs to taken into consideration for suspensions. For example, Hjalmarsson's hit on Pomminville should definitely been given a larger suspension based on what happened to Pomminville. Plus extra because his name is so hard to spell.

The legal system takes into account what happened to the victim and so should the NHL. Breaking and Entering and Theft vs. Robbery; Murder vs. Attempted murder... People who think the action should only be taken into consideration aren't looking at the big picture. It's important that the players we all pay good money to see get to play and not have to sit on the IR.

Anyway, getting off my high horse, I really only wanted to state that Doan was getting three games for the hit. A bit excessive in my mind since nothing really came of the hit. But I suppose the NHL was using this as an example.

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A bit excessive in my mind since nothing really came of the hit.

Maybe it was excessive because Doan fucked up Cam Fowler earlier in the game and Cam never returned?

by Mike in OC on Oct 18, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Although Fowler was taken out, that should not have been in consideration. Fowler’s injury in my mind was more unfortunate than anything. Fowler definitely tried to do a bit too much and he was already off balance and skating quite fast. I don’t really think Doan really hit him that much. It was the fact that a small bump knocked down an already off balance player who unfortunately went into the boards face first. I think that Fowler would have crashed into the boards with or without that hit – maybe not face first, but would have crashed into the boards.

I for one didn’t think much of the hit on Fowler except that it sucked to lose him and was hoping that he was ok.

I would hope the league didn’t take earlier actions into account for the blindside hit.

by Wooster11 on Oct 18, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why, the legal system (and I harp on that because I’m a lawyer and thought it was funny that you brought it up) takes prior bad acts into account?

Colin Campbell certainly did when he let Doan slide for punching Vishnevski after the game was over, even though Campbell said his Instigator at the end of a game rule would be enforced black and white. Why shouldn’t Doan receive extra punishment because of his history, whether it’s a new rule he broke five years ago or a video they reviewed just before the hearing of what could easily have been called a 2 minute Boarding penalty even if it wasn’t a suspendable offense?

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 18, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not talking about prior bad acts. I’m talking about the outcome of the act. I’ve heard a lot of arguments in regards to punishing the action and not the result of that action. A lot of people didn’t think Hjalmarsson should have been suspended and only was because Pomminville got hurt. I do think it was a blindside hit. I don’t think Pomminville actually saw Hjalmarsson. He was turning his head, but I think he saw the other Chicago player who was skating by and not Hjalmarsson. Either way, the hit was dangerous and the fact that Pomminville was injured definitely should be in consideration for the punishment.

As far as my thoughts on priors, they also should be taken into account. If the smaller punishment didn’t stop you, then you get a bigger one next time. I don’t recall the whole Vishnevski incident so I can’t comment on that. As for the hit on Fowler though, I don’t believe Doan laid a dirty hit on him. That’s why I don’t think Fowler’s hit should have been in consideration for the suspension for the hit on Sexton.

by Wooster11 on Oct 19, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you didn’t see either incident as determinative, whatever. The point is, the league seems to have. Doan was not clean enough for them to make this a “no prior record” situation and wait to make an example of the next player. Whether they cared about the punch on Vishnevski or the fact that they had to review two borderline hits from a player in the same game, they clearly factored in who Doan was, just as they did when they chose not to suspend him for punching Vishnevski, even though they said they were going to set a bright line rule that year.

My key point was that it’s ludicrous to try to hold a workplace disciplinary system to the example of the American legal system, especially when that workplace reaches its rules through collective bargaining with a union. If players don’t want to be fined for every little thing, they won’t be. If players don’t want to have to recompensate an injured player for what can be an unintended injury on the ice (and what cannot be recovered by tort because both players consent to the battery that occurs within the context of a hockey game). The NHL is not going to fine Doan for a missed 2 Minute Boarding call on Fowler because it sets a precedent where they could fine guys for every penalty in the book. By contrast, the IRS will throw you in jail for not paying your taxes for a whole heap of social imperatives that don’t exist in hockey. You can’ t just compare them because they both seem to involve punishment to you.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Oct 19, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

according to TSN website

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=337858

DUCKS D FOWLER HAS BROKEN NOSE

so should we expect him back with a cage?

thank you cam fowler for making the ducks watchable!
www.battleofcali.com

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 18, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I would assume so since we don’t have a 7th defenseman right now with Mikkelson being waived and no call-up occurring (granted they still have a day or two).

by Wooster11 on Oct 18, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea im happy it wasnt a concussion…i think hell strap on a see thru cage thing and go to work…just hope it didnt spook the kid..im sure hes had some shit happen to him before like this

thank you cam fowler for making the ducks watchable!
www.battleofcali.com

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 18, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, he missed time because of a broken nose. What a pussy.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Oct 18, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

may doughtys legs be broken

thank you cam fowler for making the ducks watchable!
www.battleofcali.com

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 18, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s some baaaad hockey karma right there.

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Oct 19, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, hoping the same.

However, Fowler did go a little crazy once he scored that goal. It was like he started to feel invincible. He was trying to do everything and look what that got him – his first NHL broken nose.

by Wooster11 on Oct 19, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah…Looked really badass seconds before he broke his nose though. And lets not forget that should have been a goal for us. Damn You Carter!!!

I rec’d that shit.

by Steven Hida on Oct 19, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have no idea how no one was able to poke that puck in. It seemed like it stayed on the line for a whole five seconds.

by Wooster11 on Oct 19, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also couldn’t help but think “Huskin’s Time!” when that was happening. Granted, Fowler is better than Huskin’s, but that rush sure felt the same.

by Wooster11 on Oct 20, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, so a Duck got hit in the head AND Shane Doan is out for Thursday’s game against the Kings? Excellent.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Oct 18, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Wait, so a Duck got hit in the head AND Shane Doan is out for Thursday’s game against the Kings? Excellent.

HAHA, that’s a win-win for you Kings fans for sure.

Anze Kopitar was at KHS during my kids game sunday, were any of you those weird grown kings fans mixed in with the 8 and 9 year olds trying to get crap signed?

by Mike in OC on Oct 18, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I caught the replay of the game on Center Ice and Brian Hayward predicted this.

Does this mean he now has credibility? In short: Naw.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.

by SharksFanEst.1994 on Oct 18, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Bye bye, Mikkelson. Sadly, you never made it into a Sleektoon.

Former Ducks defenseman Brendan Mikkelson claimed by Calgary Flames; Ducks recall Danny Syvret from Syracuse.

I have to believe that the Ducks have played more defensemen this young season than any NHL club. Visnovsky, Sutton, Lydman, Lilja, Festerling, Mikkelson, Brookbank, Sbisa, Fowler, and Mara — that makes ten so far.

Let’s make it eleven!

www.battleofcali.com

by Earl Sleek on Oct 19, 2010 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

And this for the team that all the pundits were saying were going to struggle on defense… No help from the Hockey Gods this season so far…

by Wooster11 on Oct 19, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

damn,,,i have to update my pic lol…easy though….whom do i put there?..going by +- it should be vish or belesky

May I buy you some chocolates and fowlers?
www.battleofcali.com

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 19, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know if there’s a picture of Syvret, but he’s the new Fake Pahlsson at #26.

He was with Sutton in the 8-3 Kings blowout I went to with Rudy. On a team of awfuls, he wasn’t so terrible.

www.battleofcali.com

by Earl Sleek on Oct 19, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

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