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Sharks Gameday: Doubleplusungood

(Just so we are clear, the last game against the Flames never happened. It isn't real. It's just a myth, like the Loch Ness Monster or New Zealand. Let us never speak of the game-that-wasn't again, agreed?)

Since Todd McLellan took over as coach for the 08-09 season, the Sharks have been an offense-first team. Out went Ron Wilson's conservative defensive play and in came the high-powered "shoot first and play defense later" attitude that was to be expected of the Red Wings' offensive coordinator. Since the Sharks have been a front-loaded team for years, it seemed like a good fit, and the team has responded by placing 7th in the league in goals per game in 08-09 and 4th last season.

The Sharks shoot the puck a lot and play with four forwards on the power play. They encourage defensemen to jump up into the play, even pushing more stay-at-home guys like Marc-Edouard Vlasic to do so. Sometimes this works out really well, and guys like Joe Thornton and Dan Boyle look amazing. Other times this strategy burns the Sharks something awful. I might even say that it burns them like Flames, but we agreed we aren't going to talk about that.

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Do you know who is dead last in the NHL in plus-minus*? Joe Thornton. He's minus nine. And he's managing that even with a respectable seven points in seven games. In fact, if you look at the bottom 50  players in the NHL in terms of plus-minus you see a lot of Sharks: Patrick Marleau, -7. Dan Boyle, -6. Joe Pavelski, -5. This team is paying the price for sloppy defensive play, not just by specific players, but basically the whole roster. The four-forward power play is producing results offensively, but it's also leading to embarrassing short-handed goals against. Couple that with high-risk defensive pinches at even strength and brain-dead mistakes by guys that are usually solid (What is wrong with Douglas Murray?) and you have a recipe for disaster, like the one that didn't happen in Calgary.

Goaltending should not be the Sharks' primary concern right now. Sure, Antti Niemi has looked like Herman from The Simpsons out there at times, but he also hasn't been getting the bare-minimum of defensive support and consistency that should be expected from a team that wants to do something significant this year. Antero Niittymaki has been the better goalie, and should get the start tonight if there is any justice in the world, but he's not a miracle worker.

Before the season Sharks fans had a couple of areas of concern when it came to defense. Their names were Kent Huskins and Niclas Wallin. So far this season, however, it hasn't been these guys we've had to worry about: it has been a team-wide issue.

We don't need to panic, of course. We expect more from players like Thornton, Boyle, and Murray because we have SEEN them play much better than this. They're obviously capable of more consistent and responsible defensive play, and the sooner we see that from them the sooner the Sharks will start stringing together wins.

Prediction: The Sharks take advantage of a team that is struggling even more than they are, and win 5 - 2. We get EVEN STRENGTH goals from Thornton, Pavelski, Marleau, Setoguchi, and Vlasic.

* = source checked Tuesday night.

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I thought Thronton was minus nine?

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Corrected, thanks.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, there’s someone with a +/- rating lower than Jason Arnott or David Clarkson? Unpossible.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 27, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

3 short handed goals against are not helping.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I thought the Devils had power play problems…

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 27, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Sharks are here to make me feel better about the Ducks’ shortcomings. Since the Kings aren’t offering much in that department so far.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

misery love company..

May I buy you some chocolates and fowlers?
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it do.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best kinda shark is a burnt shark. =) Charred Shark Steaks! =P

by ScottyKnows on Oct 27, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

We get EVEN STRENGTH goals from…

That’s a ridiculous statement. The Sharks can’t score at even strength. Wonder how many SH goals the Devils will score tonight…

Either way, we should still win. The Devils have been atrocious…

"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
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by ZeroIndulgence on Oct 27, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Like I was saying out on the links this morning, the problem the Sharks seem to be having is that they’re not stopping the other team’s cycle. They can stay with the other team and prevent good scoring opportunities but they’re not really stopping the cycle and breaking up the play. Murray can but he’s too slow and dumb, Vlasic’s fast enough but he has the upper body of Justin Bieber, and the other guys don’t know what’s going on.

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by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Truth.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to front-page this today above gameday posts, but all Sharks fans should check out the FanShot I just posted about a road trip down to Anaheim for the January Sharks-Ducks game.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

You should totally fly up to bus down.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a good idea.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even strength goal! Marleau’s 700 career point.

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 7:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Heatley-Thornton-Marleau are awesome.

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeez — poor Marty. Hahaha.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it really is incredible what is going on with the Devils. Are they actually worse-off than both of us?

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only until Kovalchuk dies or the salary cap triples.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

finally

stupid coach, just stick with what works! fantasy points, woo!

by ScottyKnows on Oct 28, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Three even strength goals tonight (in one period), all from the top line!

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Pluses abound!

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thornton’s already shot up to -6!

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really liking the idea of splitting the big guys up and trying to get several scoring lines going, but you can’t argue with these results.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Hat trick for Joe Thornton, with an assist to the goofy San Jose boards!

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

loved his big grin after that too :)

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by Angy on Oct 27, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay … I’m going to Saturday’s game against the most dreaded Ducks … THESE! are the Sharks that I want playing then … (and for the rest of the season)

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by Angy on Oct 27, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Sharks need more secondary scoring. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2010 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

They need to sharpen up the PP too, only 1 goal tonight on the man advantage.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

WIN!!!!

Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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by Angy on Oct 27, 2010 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh hey a 5-2 win with lots of even strength scoring. My time machine must be working again.

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 10:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

-9 to -5 with a hat trick and 2 assists in 1 game.

I think he read your post.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure he reads this blog ever day.

Getzlaf actually breathes through his bald spot. He’s like a porpoise.
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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seems like the kind of guy that would get the humor here.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus we talk about mammoths a lot and he has a google search alert for that.

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by Megalodon on Oct 27, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know he’s stealing the Patrick Marleau facts to tell to the rest of the players.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 27, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what’s pretty awesome? Click on the link of worst plus-minus now and the bottom two dudes are Arnott and Elias. Arnott’s a -10 and Elias is -9.

That’s not only Thornton pulling himself out of the embarrassing spot, but making sure somebody else got there in his place, too.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 28, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, there’s not a Shark in sight on that page anymore. Great stuff.

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by Megalodon on Oct 28, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should drop Simon Gagne just so the dude can get his first point of the season.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 28, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t the glass man break again? I swear he’s like the forward version of DiPietro.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 28, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Clowe-Pavelski-Mitchell
McGinn-Couture-Seto

?

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by RudyKelly on Oct 28, 2010 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Clowe-Pavelski-Setoguchi
McGinn-Couture-Mitchell
McCarthy-Nichol-Mayers

Boyle-Murray
Vlassic-Wallin
Demers-Huskins

Niittymaki
Niemi

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 28, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last night that definitely didn’t look too bad.

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by Megalodon on Oct 28, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking that Mitchell on the 2nd line makes it more of a shutdown line while Seto can take advantage of the weak match-up on the 3rd line. But maybe that’s just my man crush on Mitchell is coming through.

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by RudyKelly on Oct 28, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torrey Mitchell has already been the victim of mancrushing too many times.

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by Earl Sleek on Oct 28, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent!

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by Megalodon on Oct 28, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitchell and McGinn have both had strong seasons so far, so either of them on the 2nd line would be worth a try. And even though the top line did all the scoring last night Setoguchi and Clowe had some great chances on the 2nd line.

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by Megalodon on Oct 28, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pav’s had an off night, probably a little tired from that whole having a child thing on Monday.

Seto needs to get some scoring going, I think any of the 3 centers on the top 3 lines can get him the puck, he just needs to bury it. I think Clowe as a big power forward would benefit him more to have around.

Mitchell is fast, but has had a hard time really putting up points since his injury, I like his speed out there with the other two kids anyway. They’re gelling really well right now and were our best line in camp and preseason even when the big names started playing. They’re just really fast as a group and none of the other lines really have that. I don’t want to split it up.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Oct 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

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