Sharks Gameday: Missing the Hate
by Megalodon on Apr 14, 2010 6:16 AM PDT
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Remember how god-damned obnoxious and hateable the Avalanche used to be? That was a simpler time.
The Avalanche were an unbelievable powerhouse for about ten years following their Stanley Cup win in '96. Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg were an unstoppable, unfair 1-2 punch at center. Sakic was just a regular guy with no particularly detestable characteristics, but Forsberg was a chippy asshole who only made things worse with his "I'm too good for the regular season" attitude later in his career.
The rest of the team was filled with jerks like Chris Simon, Claude Lemieux, Adam Foote, and (later) Rob Blake*. Jesus, the Avalanche were like the fucking Magnificent Seven of douchebaggery.
The king of the assholes, of course, was Patrick Roy. Never has a man with impressive talent done more to taint and ruin it. He won a bunch of games (while playing on an insanely stacked team, by the way) but I will contend till the day I die that he was frequently a liability: his risky and clumsy stick-handling often leading directly to goals for the opposing team. And nobody ever called him out on his bullshit, because he was the great and perfect Patrick Roy! God damn, it just makes me so mad - gah - I'm choking on my rage here!
I can't for the life of me remember the context, but I saw this thing on TV one time where Peter Jennings was being interviewed about hockey (since he was Canadian, and the interviewer was clearly racist). He was asked about his favorite team and he made a comment about whatever team he grew up rooting for - that's not the point of the story. Then, without any prompting, Jennings said the following (I'm paraphrasing, but it's pretty close - it was burned in my memory as the most randomly awesome thing that has ever happened)**:
Peter Motherfucking Jennings: "One team that I don't like is the Colorado Avalanche. And the reason I don't like them is that I feel the fans are spoiled. The team won the Stanley Cup in its first year after moving to Colorado, and so the fans there got the greatest success without having to wait at all. That's not how it's supposed to be."
Anyway, the point of all this is that all the players that made the Avalanche hateable are long gone***. Craig Anderson is a great story this season, and Paul Stastny and the Scooby Gang are fun players and exciting to watch. Before this season most analysts said the Avalanche would suck. While I agreed that their goaltending was questionable, I knew that Stastny and Wolski could put in some goals (and I drafted them both on my fantasy team, since no one else seemed to remember they existed). I'm not at all surprised that the Avs made the playoffs, and if they weren't playing against the Sharks I would be pulling for them. But since things worked out like this, I have only one thing to say: The Avalanche suck and can burn in hell.
Prediction: Sharks win 4-1. Goals by Thornton, Blake, Malhotra, and Couture.
*= Ah the irony! It burns!
**= The internet has failed me in my search for the clip itself, so if anyone happens to know where I can find it, I will include it in an upcoming post.
*** = Except Adam Foote, but he's such a rickety old shadow of himself that now it's funny.
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i think the lanche will make it intresting…
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 6:26 AM PDT reply actions
I think Nabokov will make it interesting.
But Meg’s right — I do fucking hate Patrick Roy — that fuck.
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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But Meg’s right — I do fucking hate Patrick Roy — that fuck.
really i thought he brought comedic relief to the goalie position…belfour was good for that too
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate Patrick Roy more than I hate Chris Chelios and Steve Eminger combined. :)
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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Oh my god. Fuck Patrick Roy in his stuipid face. They really were a hateable team…all of ’em except Sakic. Aside from Foote, Hejduk is still there too, but also a shell of a man now.
Oh man, remember when Selanne and Kariya went to the Avalanche for a year? Yeah, me neither.
I always hated Sakic because he was a shitty Steve Yzerman. He’s John Mellencamp to Stevie Y’s Bruce Springsteen.
At one end of the spectrum, there is Tugboat. At the exact opposite side, there is Patrick Roy.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
At one end of the spectrum, there is Tugboat. At the exact opposite side, there is Patrick Roy.
tugboat is gawd
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Mellencamp and Springsteen both suck. But I digress. I’d say Sakic and Yzerman are about the same, in my mind anyway. Great players, Cup winning leaders, all-around solid human beings.
Dear lord, I can’t believe I just wrote kind words about Avalanche and Red Wings players. I need to go punch myself in the face real quick. Be right back.
i think the lanche will make it intresting…
Agreed. They got this far for a reason and I think the Sharks (at first) might underestimate them.
P.S. Nice article Meg. Entertaining. =)
If the Sharks take tonight’s game lightly, I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
“Ha ha ha! Look at that! A team that didn’t learn a goddamn thing from last season!
Just like the Du-…"
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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by Earl Sleek on Apr 14, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, as a side topic: don’t you hate how MS Word pretends that “hatable” and “hateable” are both unacceptable spellings? Pick one of them, you fuckers, it’s a goddamn word!
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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Funny, that’s Rudy Kelly’s definition for “dog”.
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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That dog is so gay
You would love that.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
by Niesy on Apr 14, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok and okay are the same thing, can't figure out a god damn spelling for the word.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
by Diamondback15 on Apr 14, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The team won the Stanley Cup in its first year after moving to Colorado, and so the fans there got the greatest success without having to wait at all.
Peter Jennings is one smart mofo. Poor Nordiques fans.
I used to hate the Avalanche as a whole and Roy in particular, but I made exceptions for Sakic, Deadmarsh, and Drury. It was always a poser whenever they’d play the Wings. Like a supernova of anger. Grr.
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I guess thats why the avs never bothered me…Ive always hated the wings more..and the avs played the wings so much..never really built up the hate for the avs…
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
and we kicked there ass in our only playoff meeting..thought the avs were declining already…sorry wings are the devil…avs are justin bieber…I guess u hate him…hes just not that important enough though
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think I have to explain the reasons behind my exceptional hatred for Roy — and fanbases that don’t have to suffer.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
basically
Fuck Avs fans.
They give them cups, the minute that they become a cellar team for all of 1 year the fans stop going to games.
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a good comparision is the cowboys and 49ers in there epic wars…both were douchy but the cowboys always took the cake…
cowboys = wings
49ers = avs
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why at least of their fan base are ridiculous assholes (exemplified by their SBNation blog comments). For this reason I disagree with Spade, I’ve always hated the Avs more. (Also, Claude Lemieux, Patrick Roy, Mike Vernon kicking Roy’s ass, and the Kings beat the Wings in the playoffs but lost both times to the Avs)
Yeah the Red Wings were always the good guys in these matchups for me too, which is strange.
Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
http://www.battleofcali.com
waaaaaaaaa!!! blasemphy!!!…how can you say that…I cant belive it
2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 15, 2010 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions
As an aside, I blame Eric Lindros for making the Avalanche into the unstoppable douche-monster that they were. That stupid fucking trade.
Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
http://www.battleofcali.com
*= Ah the irony! It burns!
I like to think this is what rumpled shirts yell.
The West Coast is the Best Coast.
by RudyKelly on Apr 14, 2010 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
This, btw, is awesome.
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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oh shit…i just got this…yea it is awesome
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 14, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The beauty of Patrick Roy is that all those grand records of his are toppling in the amount of time it took for his kid to turn out to be an asshole on ice, too.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Apr 14, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Can't Hate the Avs?
Here, let me help. First a quote from Hejduk:
"Having the team they’ve had for the last four or five years and not going very far in the playoffs, I think we can use that to our advantage," Hejduk told the Denver Post on Sunday.
A fair point, but as Sharks fans, we don’t have to stand for that shit! Fuck him!
Also, have you been over to Mile High Hockey? I mean, seriously, it’s like if you took BoC’s irreverance, and took away the humor. They’re just bitter and talk down to all non-Avs fans. It’s a sad, sad state.
And then, the king. This article from Mark Kiszla
Avs fans and writers are still just as stuck up as ever! So, seriously, there’s enough out there to hate. Also, look in the stands at Game 3 and count the Patrick Roy jerseys…if that doesn’t get the hate flowing, I have no idea what will.
Fuck the Avs! GO SHARKS!
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by ZeroIndulgence on Apr 14, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
A fair point, but as Sharks fans, we don’t have to stand for that shit!
Actually after the last few playoffs I’m pretty sure you do have to stand for it.
i agree….thats what you get for choking…up to your team to overcome that
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 15, 2010 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions
“Having the team they’ve had for the last four or five years and not going very far in the playoffs, I think we can use that to our advantage,” Hejduk told the Denver Post on Sunday.
You can't kill the metal. The metal will live on.
by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 15, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Before you say “hey, that avatar is offensive” just remember it’s a (terrible) artist’s rendition of Jonas Hiller.
I'm here! I know, I brighten the room. Everything's better.
I thought it was the Stig until I clicked on it.
by live every week like it's shark week on Apr 14, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew that Stastny and Wolski could put in some goals (and I drafted them both on my fantasy team, since no one else seemed to remember they existed).
I drafted Stastny in the middle rounds, and at one point had Stastny, Galiardi, Mueller, and Yip on my fantasy team.
The king of the assholes, of course, was Patrick Roy.
I was and still am a huge fan of Roy. Yes he was an arrogant prick, but he backed it up. His theatrics were just as entertaining as his goaltending. And for a young goalie growing up, pretty difficult not to at least look up to him and what he did to popularize the butterfly.
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Trade rumors abound
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Year of the Cup?
Just for the record I am rooting tonite for: Ottawa, Philly, Phoenix, SJ. So depending on my record from that you might want to kick me off your “rooting for” list. :-)
Let's go Ducks.
Sidney totally ruins Pitts for me, plus they won a few yrs ago and I will more like root for the underdog (exception is duckie and angels). Can’t stand NJ cause of their name.
Let's go Ducks.
In a hat.
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The hate! It’s back! How I’ve missed you!
Fuck you Darcy Tucker!
Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
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Aw, and I wanted Hiller to be the only one to shut out the top-seeded Sharks in G1. :(
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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That was good but Miller and Robbie forking the Puck to Getz who wrists it by Nabbie while they show Thorton throwing water bottles and swearing was so much better…
He won a bunch of games (while playing on an insanely stacked team, by the way)
Huh? The guy backstopped possibly the crappiest team ever to win a Cup in Montreal. He’s the last goalie who you can “blame” for having wins due to stacked teams – he actually demonstrated that he can win it all without one, unlike certain other goalies who enter the “greatest goalie ever” discussion.
Maybe so, but from ’96 on he had one of the best hockey teams ever playing in front of him.
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True, but my argument is still valid. He had a real top team in front of him for maybe half his career, and that’s no reason to put an asterisk on his win totals when most of the guys in the top of the career wins list played behind a top lineup for a lot longer.
My argument is still valid: Roy is a douche.
And the greatest goalie ever is named Hasek.
Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
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And the greatest goalie ever is named Hasek.
I got a soft spot for him his flailing like a fish when selanne roofed it to stick a dagger in the hearts of the wings
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 15, 2010 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Roy being a douche doesn’t remove the fact that he was able to win without an insanely stacked team too. I’m just trying to fact-check here because your parenthesis and the liability comment make it sound like his win/performance ratio was something like this year’s Huet, and that’s just not true. But whatever.
Besides, to me he’s the Perry/Ruutu type of douche that makes you laugh instead of the Claude Lemieux/Tootoo type of douche that makes you want to punch him in the face. Of course, your mileage may vary, and I suppose it does.
And his rotten stickhandling (or probably average stickhandling at the time that he had way too much confidence in) doesn’t remove his great ability to play goal either, even though he would have been better off without doing so.
Hasek certainly is the best goalie ever. Greatest depends on how you define greatest.
Greatest = best for me. It’s always hard to separate the goalie from the team, but I feel that Hasek’s teams were much weaker offensively and relied much more on the goalie than the Avs.
Roy was a good goalie, but I just got so sick of everyone hailing him as the greatest of all time, because I definitely didn’t feel he was that.
Also, Patrick Roy’s dad and wife have basically the same name. That’s fucking creepy.
Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
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If you think about that last point in the sickest way possible, that’s a fine explanation for any personality issues.
Roy was a good goalie, but I just got so sick of everyone hailing him as the greatest of all time, because I definitely didn’t feel he was that.
I know the feeling as I’m living through it right now with Brodeur.
This means war.
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by Jibblescribbits on Apr 15, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re going to talk about Roy winning because of stacked teams and then claim that BRODEUR is better than him?
Who are you, Doc Emrick?
So what are the chances for an Avalanche vs. Sabres finals, eh?
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fact-check
that and spell check my 2 greatest enemies
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 15, 2010 7:35 AM PDT reply actions
Here's some hate for you!
A quote from the linked Kizla article that says it all!
“Maybe it’s a simple as letting these Sharks do what they do best:
Tank."
I was at game 3, which wasn’t won by the Avs (Anderson excepted), it was lost by the Tanking Sharks, in spite of the refs tilting the ice your way all game, much less the whole series. An elbow to the head of our goalie, knocking him down to the ice don’t draw a penalty call, or even a stoppage of play, but seconds later a so called cross check from paul stastny puts him in the box. (just one example of many crap calls) If you are going to ‘let them play’, you have to non call it the same for both teams. Luckily, the hockey gods can’t be bought!
I’ll take Claude Lemieux over Rob Flake any day, on any team, btw, though I am glad he’s still kicking in goals for us, heeee! The Sharks are going to lose (again) and to a bunch of rookies, I love it!
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