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Sharks Postgame: High Five

***UPDATED - Kings and Ducks fans, please watch the video of Rob Blake's hit on Galiardi (posted in the comments) and let us know if you think it was dirty or suspendable.***

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Five times the Sharks trailed, and five times they rallied and came back. 

We're just getting started.

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Awful bounces, shaky goaltending, and the most retarded goalie interference call in world history* couldn't stop them.

As good as I feel right now, this was a rough game. There was a LOT to be upset about. Let's talk about that first.

 

Finding the Dark Cloud inside the Silver Lining

1. Evgeni Nabokov - He was not good. The first couple of goals were completely not his fault, including the bad bounce, the breakaway, and the 2-1 down low. It seemed like he got a little rattled after that, because for most of the middle of the game Nabokov was WEAK. I was glad to see him turn it around in OT, and he definitely saved the Sharks a couple of times...but with a stronger game throughout from Nabby, OT wouldn't have been necessary.

2. Douglas Murray - I love Murray. He's awesome. But he had a TERRIBLE game. Half the time he was trying to hit people at the expense of defense** and the other half of the time he was trying to be Dan Boyle. It was maddening, and led directly to at LEAST two of the Avalanche goals. I hope he picks it up and settles back into his normal role as a solid D-man who can deliver a big hit without taking himself out of position.

3. The No-Goal Call - That goaltender interference bullshit was a travesty.

 

But enough negativity - what a fucking incredible, insane, absolutely ridiculous game. I seriously think I may have screwed something up with my time machine, because there is no way those were the same two teams that played game one.

In game one I was pretty pleased with the Sharks defensive play, but the offense was feeble. In game two I loved the aggression, intensity, and strength on the puck on offense - but now the defense and goaltending fell apart. Are the two mutually exclusive? Was tonight's offensive power a direct result of the D-men jumping up into the play more, which consequently led to bad odd-man rushes? ARE THESE MY ONLY TWO CHOICES?

If the Sharks can keep up the offensive steam from this game and remember how to play defense and goal, then they can beat anybody. You hear me? ANYBODY.


* = confirmed by impartial Blues and Leafs fans in the Fear the Fin game thread.

** = that sounds familiar. Where have I heard that plan before?

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This is all Jumbo and Patty’s fault. They should have handled Murray when they had the chance.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Also

I’m done with Nabby in teal. He walks this year, cup or no.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah probably. He’s too expensive for being so hit and miss.

Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
Battle of California

by Megalodon on Apr 16, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can be amazing, and then he’s complete garbage. We need consistency on the back end in the playoffs.

I’d like to see us go after Dan Ellis from Nashville. and platoon him with Greiss or Stalock.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toskala might be cheap.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 16, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

After watching this game I’d consider it.

Though I’d come to my senses later.

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by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

brutal!

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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aw, c’mon — he never allowed a goal during his Anaheim tenure.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Toskala will always have a small place in my heart, so let’s just make sure it stays that way. :)

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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has an undefined goals against average with the Ducks (0/0) He’s too good

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assume Megalodon, in a generous gesture, went back into the past and warned Randy Carlyle against inserting him.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

DAMNIT MEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that Carlyle giving the shark the high five?

by Nut on Apr 17, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

thoughflames might try to keep kipper happy by letting his buddy stay a lil longer

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by sleza on Apr 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boucher.

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by Megalodon on Apr 16, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last night in regulation, Nabokov faced nine shots when the game was tied, and stopped four of them.

Amazingly he matched that four-key-save total in overtime, too — what a night.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

probably

would never admit this over at FTF because Nabby had an amazing regular season but hes starting to look like good ol swiss cheese nabby again….ugh…so..if we can afford another good goalie like Ellis or Tosk and pair them up like was said by you with Stalock or Greisser….walk Nabby…keep Creepy Captn

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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good to see you finally come around.

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by Mr. Plank on Apr 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d even be willing to go into next year with Greiss and Stalock. We already know Greiss can put up a standard Nabby year (2.70 GAA, .910 SV%) with almost no playing time. Take that extra $2 mil to Ellis and use it on an upgrade on the defense.

by ruben398 on Apr 17, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

They actually played decent defense for the most part. You have to in order to get the shots against so low. I’d fault the coverage on two goals, Nabby on two goals, and Vlasic’s head for the other.

If Nabby remembers his positioning and the Sharks play like this for the rest of the playoffs, I’d be ok with it.

by Mike Chen on Apr 16, 2010 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the breakaway and the odd-man rushes showed that something was wrong with the D for the first 20 minutes, but I agree they did get their act together starting with the second. But by then Nabby was shaken.

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Battle of California

by Megalodon on Apr 16, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

About that time machine

You must have seen how Game 5 went at HP. Do you remember handshakes afterward?

by Mike Chen on Apr 16, 2010 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Boy is it ever fun to read the entire comments thread for Mile High Hockey after a game like this. Seeing all their glee and cockiness just evaporate into frustration and impotent rage…it’s a blessing, is what it is.

Everything sucks except for the Sharks.
Battle of California

by Megalodon on Apr 16, 2010 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this thread.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 16, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure they understand that hockey is a contact sport.

"Douglas Murray is a humongous human being." – Drew Remenda

by Evilducks on Apr 17, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just finished reading it … wow! not sure what game they were watching, but the refs weren’t going out of their way to help us out

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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured

from vodka goggles that the refs were helping THEM not us..hahaahaha

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by mssjsclowie29 on Apr 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now you know how people feel when the Sharks lose every post-season. It’s fantastic, isn’t it?

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by brokenyard on Apr 17, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

where’s the love? :)

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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

What were you expecting? A Shark love fest?

You can't kill the metal. The metal will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was tonight’s offensive power a direct result of the D-men jumping up into the play more, which consequently led to bad odd-man rushes?

I don’t think this was the case tonight. Look at the shot totals for the Avs – 22 shots was all the Sharks allowed.

The odd men rushes were bad, but nothing that the Sharks do not experience on a regular basis.

Fear the Fin - all Evgeni, all the time.

by Ivano M on Apr 17, 2010 1:50 AM PDT reply actions  

What?

Are you an expert? So you’re saying you’re an expert?

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by Bettman's Nightmare on Apr 17, 2010 6:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Andy Sutton says clean hit. So fuck u.

;)

by skilletboy on Apr 17, 2010 10:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rob Blake’s Hit on Galiardi

Avalanche fans (and some media) are currently going insane over this hit, saying that it was a headshot and that Blake deserves to be suspended.

Am I crazy? Kings and Ducks fans, help me out here, because I can’t be impartial. In the slow-mo replay, Blake doesn’t even touch the dude’s head at all – he strikes his torso and knocks him down. If you can’t do that, how can you ever hit somebody? How could this possibly be a penalty, let alone a suspension?

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Battle of California

by Megalodon on Apr 17, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Confused over here as well… even if he’s suspended um, what would it be for?

by idunno723 on Apr 17, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’d be for elbowing, I guess, but I don’t really know — if they want to vilify somebody they’re going to do it, no matter what..

I don’t think they’ll suspend him, but if it was Pronger as a Duck it’d be a game. Politics, what can you do?

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it was anyone not name Scott Niedermayer in a Ducks jersey it’d be a game….

by Steven Hida on Apr 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Niedermayer would somehow be awarded a penalty shot out of that, which he’d have to think about for a few months.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looked fine to me.

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by RudyKelly on Apr 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet hit.

As to whether he should get suspended – He’s wearing a Sharks jersey, no biggie. If his name is Pronger and he’s wearing a Ducks jersey, the pitchfork parade would be standing outside Bettman’s office already.

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by Morbo on Apr 17, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that hit was fine, Blake was just taller. His elbows were down.

by Nut on Apr 17, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought.

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Battle of California

by Megalodon on Apr 17, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

At this point, everything that does or doesn’t go one way will be nitpicked to death. There was certainly stuff that the refs missed (or ignored) on both sides but I don’t think that was one of them.

by Mike Chen on Apr 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus I’m not even sure there’s evidence that anybody’s going to get suspended for anything this postseason — I’ve heard plenty from the fans of a lot of teams, but the front office seems awfully quiet, I think.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

don’t you just love how one play could be seen so differently by people

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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Christ.

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by Mr. Plank on Apr 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t think it was that bad. Could have been called for roughing/interference, but whatever. The call on Foote in OT was a joke. The refs are absolutely fucking this whole series up on both sides. This crew is just unbelievable.

Besides all of that, it’s been very entertaining. Should be another good one Sunday.

You can't kill the metal. The metal will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a Sharks fan who’s not impartial either, but my girlfriend and I weren’t sure if Blake made contact w/ his head so we watched it frame by frame in HD. Blake hit him squarely in the chest. As Galiardi crumbled and his head whiplashed back from the abrupt change of direction, Blake’s natural follow through might have made contact then, but that’s not what made his head fly back or where Galiardi took 100% the force of the hit. We were both positive it wasn’t a head-shot after watching it in slow motion.

Definitely not a suspension because the contact wasn’t initiated with the head and it was from straight on.

A lateral, back-pressure or blind-side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted.

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by WillR on Apr 17, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tighten your fucking helmet strap, kid. That was forearm to chest.

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by Doogie2K on Apr 17, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Galiardi is so under Boyle’s skin it isn’t even funny.. he is getting owned by a rookie.

You can't kill the metal. The metal will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woo hoo!!

Thanks for the laugh dude!!

by skilletboy on Apr 17, 2010 12:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mission accomplished. Because you look like you needed one.

You can't kill the Galiardi. The Galiardi will live on.

by Pinchy The Lobster on Apr 17, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rocky Mountain Douchery...

What an amazing game last night. Douglas Murray is my new favorite HP Pavillion dweller. But Rob Blake’s presence on the team still makes them have a Gatorade Cooler full of Suck-juice. That being said, I don’t think Blake’s hit was dirty at all. Colorado fans are really starting to piss me off. They’re like Canadians with their insufferable amount of indignancy, but without all that North of the 48th-parallel charm. On behalf of Calafornia, I hope the Sharks go into the Denver Pepsi Can and rip them a new one – and that Rob Blake has a misfortunate encouter with Joe Sakic’s snowblower.

PS I will never doubt the power of Meg’s Flux Capacitor. Could you go back 3 years and short-sell some Bear-Stearns stock shares on my behalf, please?

PPS It’s fucking great to have you back, Angy! Please send some good mojo the Kings’ way later this evening….

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Apr 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

yeah I’ll be watching that game … cheering on the Kings (god did I really say that) over the Canucks … :)

Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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by Angy on Apr 17, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Ang! I second what Dodger so eloquently said. It’s so good to have you back.

Thanks for the temporary Kings love. I’m definitely rooting Sharks over Avs. Melt those drippy snowcones.

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by Niesy on Apr 17, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calafornia

I really should learn to not type anything on the interwebs while having the Saturday Morning Pre-Hangover Giggles. Please forgive me, Arnold!

and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.

by DodgerBlueBalls on Apr 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not entirely sure Arnold can spell it either.

"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

3. The No-Goal Call – That goaltender interference bullshit was a travesty.

Replace Setoguchi with Douche Trick. Replace Anderson with Nabokov.

Now tell me it’s a travesty.

Yeah, that’s right, I just totally fucked with your head didn’t I?

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by Morbo on Apr 17, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny you should mention that...

My exact quote to my friend watching the game with me at the time was:

“If that’s not a legit goal then Corey Perry needs to turn in all of his goals for the year”

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by Evilducks on Apr 18, 2010 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez — I could see this someday being BoC’s header.

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by Earl Sleek on Apr 17, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt do good? Yay.

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