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Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to thank you for attending today's press conference.  In the interest of time, I would ask that all follow-up questions be saved until after the press statement has been completely read.  I won't delay with introductions, as we are in the midst of a global pollution crisis -- the following is a prepared statement by the NHL Petroleum Company.

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Citizens of earth:

Oilspillchicago_mediumWe are on the cusp of a global catastrophe, as reckless mining for salary cap loopholes has created a spending leak that we at the moment cannot contain.  The Chicago Blackhawks megacontract spill in the Gulf of the Central Division has been polluting the free agent trending waters for weeks now, but rest assured that the NHL Petroleum Company will not rest until this costly leak has been sealed.  The magnitude of the dollar-spewing is difficult to quantify at this point, as pretty much all of our efforts have been devoted to stemming the leak.

To the right you can see a diagram of the containment efforts; a salary cap dome has been lowered to try to capture and redistribute a lot of those committed dollars.  But there have been setbacks along the way; our first attempt went awry when it was discovered that the cap had been pre-filled with some of last season's bonus dollars.  Also, some of the committed dollars are escaping through a circumventing process known as AHL demotion.

At this point, the cap dome is mostly lowered over the leak, but it hasn't been secured into place just yet.  There is an NHLPA pressure point that we've located that can raise the cap ceiling by $2M for next season, which would limit our ability to capture all the dollar leakage.  If that is avoided, however, we believe it is still possible that we could achieve a lowered-ceiling hard seal -- that would really stick it to the Blackhawk.

We remain positive that a solution is imminent so we can preserve the ecological balance of UFA pricing, and going forward we hope to stem the hasty pollution caused by short-sighted GMs.  Already hockey congress is moving to enact a bill that will limit contract spans; hopefully that allows for less risky contract mining in the future.

For now, the NHL Petroleum Company is recommending short-term alternative sources of roster-filling, as player prices may fluctuate wildly in the next few months.  We sincerely look forward to moving past this particular contract-overcommitment crisis so that we can continue our services uninterrupted by future lockout.

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Go Summer.

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Thinking about this whole situation and how anyone in the organization could let this happen, it makes me wonder exactly how much the RFA qualifying paperwork snafu played into this oversight.

Does anyone have an estimate of how much money would have been saved had Tallon not had to overcompensate for the blunder?

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 14, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d guess a couple of million annually — seems they got reasonable deals from all their turned-UFAs.

I don’t know if that’s to blame, though — I think the Hawks could have been fucked even without that. It’s the Campbell contract, plus the Hossa deal, plus the natural raises due Kane, Toews, and Keith that are really at work here. Add in Huet and it’s just a mess.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I certainly don’t think it was any one issue, including this one, but all of them put together certainly screwed them royally.

Like, how in the hell could you not look ahead to the next year and see, “oh crap, we’re gonna be screwed financially if we make this signing.” It boggles my mind.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 14, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not so bad if you count on a constantly-growing cap ceiling, but sadly there’s always that reality factor.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn reality! Always getting in the way of Dream team’s with inflated salaries!

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 14, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, they ended a 49 year Cup drought this year

I think that was the main focus – and they have a solid core going forward (once some middling importance guys get moved, or some trades get completed) and will simply be less deep for the next couple seasons.
Yes, Campbell is overpaid, but not by an absurd amount (he is a very good player – cut him back to $5 million and we wouldn’t be having the great debate on him).
The ony real disaster of a signing was Huet.

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by krome on Jun 15, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s very true — and it may mean we get more imitators who try to sign UFAs for as long as possible.

But I really don’t think it’s a matter of any one contract being that insane (OK, Huet). It’s just the quantity of long-term, big-dollar, “this is our core forever” contracts that have been signed the last couple of summers, combined with natural raises due the talented first-rounders. Next year they’ll have six guys in excess of a $5M cap hit, and only one of those comes off the books sometime in the next five years.

I guess they should have signed Campbell until he was sixty, then we’d have no debate, eh?

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not hatin’ on the Cup. They won and they deserve it, but there has to be something said about the handling of their contracts, and like Sleek said, there isn’t any 1 contract that is super-overblown. I do feel like Campbell is way overpaid, especially for a guy who ends up being a 2nd pair guy after Keith and Seabrook. And obviously Huet is massively overpaid for the fact that he is a backup now.

But when you look at their contracts it’s like everyone is a little overpaid, which adds up fast.

All I’m saying is, with all of this information sitting in front of them, they must have known they were going to be screwed come this summer. How could it have been such an oversight? Was it negligence, or simply a matter of “either we do this or we lose key players and don’t win it all?”

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 15, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Campbell’s being overpaid by 2 million over his real value until he’s like 37 or 36. And he’s 31 now. If that’s not the definition of an absurd contract, I don’t know what is.

It’s good that Kane and Toews have a lot more years in them, anyway. They’re going to need ’em.

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by Niesy on Jun 15, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Barker would have come in at that price, though Versteeg they probably wanted a little cheaper. But they already had Byfuglien, Sharp and Bolland on the books at 3-4M per year, so it’s hard to blame their situation on the blunder. And though Versteeg is a great player, it’s interesting to me that they sent their third overall pick packing so they could keep (and pay) a Boston 5th Rounder.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 14, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loved this Sleek, as I’ve followed the BP shitstorm quite intently over the last three weeks.

When does Stan Bowman enact a ban on talking to anyone within the organization about the crisis? Have to figure that’s coming quite soon.

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by Mr. Plank on Jun 14, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I should have pointed out that my following of this BP mess has been pretty weak — I think I watched coverage on day 12 and then day 45 of the spill or something.

But once I had the cartoon drawn, I was committed. Clean it up, NHL Petroleum Company!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have no idea how much I hate this shit storm

I work for a GIS company (we make mapping software)… Our team got tasked with developing maps for this fucking thing. I have to maintain the servers that these fucking apps are running on. It’s nothing but one headache after another. God I hate this fucking oilspill.

Here’s the maps I maintain for this spill so far. Considering it’s not ending any time fucking soon I’m sure there will be more. I actually have to get up early on Saturday and Sunday to update this shit.

http://www.esri.com/services/disaster-response/gulf-oil-spill-2010/index.html

FUCK BP, I hate them more than the Red Wings. I don’t even give a shit about the stupid Pelicans.

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by Evilducks on Jun 15, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s bullshit, but nice maps nonetheless.

There’s some joke here about “map app crap”, but I haven’t put it together yet.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what to believe any more.

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by Megalodon on Jun 15, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Precisely.

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by Evilducks on Jun 15, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pelicans, ducks…same diff.

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by Niesy on Jun 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha! but you know, someone has to do it … you could always find another company to work for … :)

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by Angy on Jun 15, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im pissed off stewart and colbert are running out of shit to talk about

by Mudhippy on Jun 15, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus, Sleek

Brilliant.

And just think of all the poor displaced Huets and Burishes caught up in this mess.

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by Dominik on Jun 14, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Won’t anybody think of the Sopels?

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much-maligned, but performing an essential function for the ecosystem.

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by Dominik on Jun 14, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again they have 47 years before they’re obligated to win a Cup again.

You heard it here, Blackhwaks 2057. I’m calling Michio Kaku out if they win. His show mentioned nothing about this.

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 14, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Cabbies of the future beware: it’s cyclical!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s an interesting fact that I’m pretty sure is correct:

All 3 BoC teams currently have 11 playoff-series victories each.

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 15, 2010 5:05 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And all we needed was a 25 year headstart!

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by RudyKelly on Jun 15, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa — way to catch up, Sharks!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Earthquake!!!

:)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 14, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I actually loved this

and may have recommended it as reading to some friends of mine.
err…..sorry in advance if any of them come over to chat. :)

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey, no worries — the more the merrier. If anyone wants to talk over the real issues, oil spill or salary cap futures, I could use some educating in both. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

well i doubt you want to weed through these threads

but we’ve started talking quite a bit about it. here’s our initial conversation about Capocalypse. It’s older, but shorter and pretty much entirely about our cap situation, so you don’t have to weed through other comments like “where I was when i saw the hawks won and started hugging everyone in sight.”

Here’s our more recent conversation….updated, but the comment thread is huge and includes tons of comments about people shaving their playoff beards. The best way to go through it is to search the thread for players’ names. There’s also a link to a “Buyout Calculator” near the top of the comments — came up when discussing what we should do with Huet.

I’ll prob come back later, like tomorrow when it isn’t 2:45am and my brain is capable of things like coherent thought.

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, you’re right — I’m not weeding through threads, not at this hour.

Besides, I just meant on what next year’s cap ceiling is going to be — that’s a big factor here.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

possible answers (who really knows real answers?)

I think some have set the cap estimates around $58.6 M, but i think we have a ot less to play with, around $56M or so. Toews’s Conn Smyth bonus will count towards next year’s cap, but I’ve heard we had about $340,000 space left on this year, so we may only have to count $960,000-ish towards next year — but i’m not sure about that one

No one really gets how the offer sheet snafu happened…i mean, was it just a matter of no one know who was using the printer or responsible for putting the stamps on the envelopes? Who knows, Talon took the fall, but i think it was a much bigger miscommunication issue.

Some people think that if we get rid of Versteeg and Buff we should be fine, but i am much more skeptical. My thoughts are that Versteeg’s gone, people will come calling for Sharp, and players like Ladd or Bolland (who i’d like to keep) will also be offered up in trade packages, though we’re more likely to try and keep Bolland.

the other big concerns about Hjalmmersson and Niemi’s new contracts.

Hjalmmersson: we’re thinking it could take $2M up to $3M to resign him, depending on who else is interested in him. Anything higher than that, and we can’t afford him anymore, and that’s even PUSHING it.

Niemi: I’ve heard a rumor of trying to do just do a 1year contract extension with him for the next year, and defer any other issues till later.

Sharp: His cap hit is 3.9

I’ve also heard that $1.875 million for 4 years is Huet’s buy out hit

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

You guys should just start up a second team in the United Center that plays on Hawks off-days. Split the team in two and fill each roster out more reasonably.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think your potential cap for next year is even lower than you’re guessing. The Toews Conn Smythe bonus is only one of the bonuses you have to worry about.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/blackhawks-exceed-salary-cap-by-millions/article1601162/

Both Kane and Toews hit a lot of performance bonuses last year playing on your top line and they have no cap room for any of that. It’s looking more like about 4M will roll over to next year. I’m thinking you’ll be closer to 55M total cap space after penalties from the stories I’m reading.

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by Evilducks on Jun 15, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, maybe next year the Hawks should play with a shortened bench, and just plan on taking a lot of minors.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

and just plan on taking a lot of minors.

when did getzlaf join the hawks?..did i miss somthing?

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 15, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not expensive nor long-term enough for that locker room.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thinking anything’s up for grabs, it just depends on how desperate we have to become to get under cap as the offseason progresses.

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't you get the memo?

It’s part of the ‘Hawks 2010-2011 plan. Forget repeating with the Cup. They’re going for the league lead in shorthanded goals again!

by VerStig on Jun 16, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

$56M is actually a really generous guess on my part

i’m thinking it lower as well. we knew about some of the other bonuses, but the CS took me by surprise (don’t really know why).

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

also consider our weaknesses

we have forwards we can bring up from rockford, and enough depth on forwards that they’re they ones we can afford to let go. People are afraid of cutting lose anyone on our top two d-lines, unless we can some how move Campbell to make cap space.

The only forward positions we should prioritize is centers. Madden’s was only ever intended as a short-termer. One of the reasons they may prioritize keeping Bolland. Sharp’s been great filling in at center, and that’s part of his value because he’s so damn versitile, but he’s been clear that he prefers wing.

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but then what are you going to do when the RFAs become UFAs again?

“Trust me, Stan. It worked last year.” :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha….i wouldn’t put that phrase past them at all….

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey look, the Kings signed Johan Fransson, apparently under the premise that this league isn’t confusing enough. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

i hear the ducks are looking to sign jonathan taves

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 15, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

in that case

i hear patrick kane’s trade value is pretty high but no one wants to take on the contract or the personality in the locker room.

by puppetmasterp on Jun 15, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

We signed The Mole!

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by RudyKelly on Jun 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

noone else thought this was funny?

by Mike in OC on Jun 15, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh damn, thought you were talking about Johan Franzen at first.

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 15, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wonder if sleek would accept if the ducks signed a sammy faulson…i mean what if he came from sweden also?

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 15, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way — it’d have to be a Paulie Samson.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 15, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about Joe Pafailski?

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 15, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a porno I’d definitely rent.

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by Niesy on Jun 15, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would guess it would be a hell of a lot better than the Rob Wienermeyer one

by Mudhippy on Jun 16, 2010 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

HEY-OOO

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by Niesy on Jun 16, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or JoeKris PavelSteeg?

Personally I thought you guys were talking about the lovechild of Johan Franzen and Cody Franson.

by VerStig on Jun 16, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, then to further complicate things, the Wings have now signed themselves another Filppula.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 16, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, that’s awesome.

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by Niesy on Jun 16, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay wanted to share this with you guys cause I’m sure Spade must have done this some point in his life. :)

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by Angy on Jun 15, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Why does this shit always happen in the falls… There’s something in the water there….Or its the constant Canadian presence…

by Steven Hida on Jun 15, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im actually ashamed of my body…sniffle sniffle

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 16, 2010 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aww, hon. I didn’t realize that’s the reason why you spam us with pics of your junk.

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by Niesy on Jun 16, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im proud of my junk..its the big belly hanging over and covering it

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 16, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

South Beach that mother and I’ll give up BSG.

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by Niesy on Jun 16, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just realized i worked so hard to not have a belly….pretending i have one makes me want to cry…so no i dont…i used to though…i didnt do south beach…just stop drinking beer and eating fries for like 9 months…it did wonders

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 16, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s time you fess up, Spade…you’re actually Jamie Bamber, aren’t you.

Limey cracker.

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by Niesy on Jun 16, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

had to look that one up…no….i told u guys im the ace of cakes guy

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