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Imaginary Dilemmas: Know Your Priorities

Hey gang, long time no blog, eh?  Laziness, thy surname is Sleek.

Anyways, I wanted to pose a question to the blog that I've been asking random Ducks friends of mine -- it's purely hypothetical, but it may be an issue that arises down the road -- who knows?  Maybe this serves as an early benchmark for future decision-making; it may not be completely pointless.  The question is in the poll below: You are the Anaheim GM, and for whatever reason (let's say that the devil visits you in a dream, or perhaps the ghost of Hitler -- you can make that part up yourself), you are forced to trade one of Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry, or Bobby Ryan.  You get to keep two and have to part with one -- who would you trade?

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Here's last year's stat sheet for all three of them; some quick discussion after the jump:


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG SOG PCT
2009 - Ryan Getzlaf 66 19 50 69 4 79 8 0 5 149 12.8
2009 - Corey Perry 82 27 49 76 0 111 6 1 2 270 10.0
2009 - Bobby Ryan 81 35 29 64 9 81 11 0 3 258 13.6

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Now normally in this sort of decision-making salary or age would be pretty big factors, but I think in this scenario, there's not too much to differentiate the three.  Getzlaf and Perry are on identical-cap-hit contracts ($5.325M / yr) that both carry them through the next three seasons, and Ryan is about to make an RFA raise that will likely put him right in the same ballpark.  Getzlaf and Perry are two years older and more experienced than Ryan, but that sort of balances the production so far -- Ryan's still somewhat on his developmental curve and may have more improvement ahead of him.

So I think this comes down to player preference and on-ice factors: with Getzlaf, you have an incredibly gifted passer and an angry bull of a player, but the downside is his mental makeup -- the guy will take bad penalties as long as he plays, and can be easily duped into a tough-man contest.  He whines incessantly to referees and doesn't shoot nearly often enough, but the upside is pretty plain to see as well.  The guy can carry a lot offensively and in the right mindset he can dominate, and he leads the trio in points-per-game by a pretty healthy margin.

Corey Perry's main asset in this debate is he's the guy I'd least like to play against.  He's a constant nuisance and a pest to netminders everywhere, and he certainly is a talented scorer -- his weasel-like play on the boards and around the net are pretty unique.  He's a proven winner in a lot of levels of hockey, too -- he's putting together a nifty Scott Niedermayer style resume at a pretty young age.  One difficulty here is that he's played so much with Getzlaf it's sometimes difficult to separate the two; how much one contributes to the other's success is a tricky factor.  Technically, Perry is cheaper than Getzlaf going forward -- cash-wise, Perry is due $15.6M over the remainder of his contract while Getzlaf is due $17M; there is a bit of spending-difference there.

Bobby Ryan is in a bit tough because he had his sophomore slump season after a really awesome rookie year.  He's still a developing talent, I think, but already he's shown great talent at putting the puck in the net, even when not on the top line -- he has more goals over the past two years than any Duck.  And I think he's a much more level-headed player as well, though his PIMs did climb last season.  As mentioned, it's unclear where his salary and term will really land, so there's a bit of an x-factor there, but it's also a bit murky how good he ultimately might be.

And one other factor to consider here -- who would net the biggest trade return at this point?  Does that matter in who you'd trade?  Really, I suspect that there's no right answer -- I've certainly come up with different theories of how I'd go forward on different days I've thought it over.  Feel free to cast your vote and discuss why you made that choice in the comments; even if you're not a Ducks fan feel free to participate.  One last question to consider for the comments: would your decision change if Jonas Hiller was added to the mix?

And then we can sit back, take a breath, and thank the heavens that nobody really has to make this decision... yet.

Go Ducks.

Poll
You are the Anaheim GM, and for whatever reason you are forced to trade one of Getzlaf, Perry, or Ryan. Who would you trade?
Ryan Getzlaf
26 votes
Corey Perry
89 votes
Bobby Ryan
46 votes

161 votes | Poll has closed

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Ryan is going to have a huge future, and I’m betting you could get more in return for Getzlaf, so he’s who I’m getting rid of.

by PeteS on Jun 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, trade return is an interesting aspect — not really sure who’d land the better return between Getzlaf and Ryan (maybe depends on the GM), but I think Perry would get the weakest return.

His value’s trickier to assess, but any GM should know that he’s probably got fans of his team who decidedly do not want Perry to don their sweater. Not sure that Getzlaf or Ryan have that issue. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I voted Ryan based purely on trade return. He has enough unrealized upside that we could actually get more for him than he’s worth.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

he must have done something in a past life.

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s from New Jersey — that’s criminal enough.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats some funny shit right there

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t his dad in trouble with the law and had to move the the US or something? It’s a sins of the father kind of deal.

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by Evilducks on Jun 9, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t his dad in trouble with the law and had to move the the US or something?

His dad was in trouble with the law in NJ so they moved to CA and changed his name to Ryan (his real name is stevenson or peterson or somthing) but they found his dad and he did time anyway.

I think he was originally wanted for domestic abuse (of the wife)

More amazing that Bobby was able to not let all that distract him.

by Mike in OC on Jun 10, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that you can think of moving Getzlaf. I haven’t seen much of him live (or otherwise) except for the Olympics and I was blown away.

I voted for Perry but I think keeping the trio is the best way forward for success. Assuming Ryan signs a similar deal as the other two that would give about $17M tied up in three forwards that produce more than a lot of teams that are going the two big forward route.

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by PPP on Jun 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Well sure, that’s the correct answer absent the ghost of Hitler — but he’s one compelling dude.

For Perry it may have to involve trading him to the KHL — I don’t ever really want to play against that guy. Ever. It may even be enough to irrationally move one of the other two.

Ack — fake dilemmas!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

but I think keeping the trio is the best way forward for success.

and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 9, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you not have a keyboard or something?

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by RudyKelly on Jun 9, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m surprised the porn key isn’t worn down

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

or have crust on it

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure I follow on the crust, unless you’re pressing the button looking for more porn after you finished or you have some curvature to the right that a urologist needs to look at.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey that curvature gets you into other areas that others cant…at least thats what i tell myself

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man. Spade’s working with an elbow joint. I now know too much about you.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it’s not Bang, Marry, Kill.

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by Niesy on Jun 9, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m not sure that poll result would be very close. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh maybe that’s the topic of my next AC post…

If you’re wondering, it’s Bobby, Getzy, Perry, respectively.

Annnd! Like you Earl, I’d hate to play against Perry, but he’d be the one to go. Bobby hasn’t reached his peak and Getz is just a force (albeit an occasional idiot of a force, but a force).

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The better Bang, Marry, Kill game for the Ducks would be the pool of Teemu Selanne, Scott Niedermayer, and Saku Koivu.

At least that would have some better variety of answers. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy. Saku. Teemu. Scotty (he’s a good looking guy, just kinda boring).

See you at the draft, Sleek :)

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

well hello…almost topless duck blogger…grabs hand kisses top of hand

you will never meet a more classy gentlemen such as myself

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except for me.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 9, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s real. I’ve never seen a more artfully cropped avatar.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. Yeah, I actually cropped it that way on purpose…just not to look topless. A friend of mine is in the photo and she didn’t want to be a part of any hate mail I might receive because of the blog :)

Oh and it’s the only recent picture I have that I like :)

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Spade. I wondered when our paths would cross. Come on over to AC. The stench of last season is still strong, but you’re right, at least we’re not the Sharks.

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I grew tired of the whiz bashing…but when a lady asks…I shall comply…I promise to post there often…just tone it down i guess

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point, Wisniewski is a huge part of next year’s blueline. Let’s hope he lives up to it — positivity!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just know hes better than whitney..and thats good enough for me..really..

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he’s better than Eminger, too. Oh wait…

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wisniewski fucking sucks, just saying.

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by RudyKelly on Jun 9, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hoping the arbiters think so, too.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That game where he got hurt blocking a shot and then limp-jumped in front of a guy to block another shot – that was awesome. I’ll take that mentality from a player any day.

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 9, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

he does suck but were stuck with him….just like were stuck with the penis size we were born with…extenze just doesnt work

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

ill tone it down..

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I grew tired of the whiz bashing

I hope to breed a barbershop mentality where you can go in there and say something like Rosa Parks didn’t do nothing but sit her ass down. I guess the Ducks equivalent is Teemu Selanne can’t complete a ten foot pass? Or Teemu Selanne plays in Anaheim for the anonymity, not for the love of the fans? On that note, James Wisniewski couldn’t defend Cloris Leachman from pregnancy. Even Brian Hayward has stopped hyping him. And I’ll say that next to an MRI of his puck-bruised lung, I don’t care.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though, actually, Spade

you might be inclined to come back soon as the tide of Wisniewski opinion is turning. Stephens from OCR reported this:

It is believed that Wisniewski is seeking a salary closer to what a No. 2 defenseman makes while it’s likely that the Ducks don’t view him as that and had to play him so much more out of necessity than desire.
So in the barbershop spirit, I’ll probably start talking about what an underrated reliable shooter he is, telegraphed shot or not.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

regardless of my last post..visiting AC calling more often is on my to-do list..not just cuz a set of boobs asked me…wait yea thats probally why…see u soon

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

My boobs thank you…and so does Arthur ;)

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

pfft, wait till he reads about the bet. ;-) Your boobs may have met their biggest fan.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

im not sure what this means..(link would help)…but im just glad were talking tits

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

One day the bet is going to have to be unleashed on the entire AC community…

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

does that mean you don’t want me to link it here? :-)

Spade, just read her fanshot entitled Shut Down Newport.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I commented on the punk bunny one only to be myself and totally screw it up…..

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh..just read it…evil grin..stroking oiled up goatee…

i guess im not the only photo exhibitionist

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

after free agency, when news completely dies, we’ll set up a Lupul goal counter and everything. Should make for interesting gamedays.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Teemu Selanne plays in Anaheim for the anonymity, not for the love of the fans?

when u say stuff like that your just a goon..selanne to me is mr. duck..i dont give a shit if your right about either points..ducks fan need a legend to honor…every icon has flaws..im sure abraham lincoln had a small dick…but that doesnt take away his greatness..u want to find flaws?..rag on getzlaf (i know u already do) or whiz if it tickels your balls..leave teemu alone for gawds sake

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha. I’m actually a Getzlaf apologist, because I don’t think he’s thrown us anything different from what we knew about him when we drafted him and they’re not the most difficult to manage flaws. I want to have that level of discussion where nothing is sacred, though. People were treating Wisniewski like he was the second coming of Christ, so while I didn’t necessarily agree with Daniel’s rather personal anger, I was happy that there was a counterbalance to the consensus in the Ducks community. I don’t think it’s necessarily needed with Selanne, but I wouldn’t mind running a forum where people said it, and where people like yourself told those people they were defecating on the crest.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know im just a selanne apologist..and wanted to say lincoln had a small dick

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve posted there tons more than you … and I don’t even like the Ducks … :)

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

gimmie time baby…gimmie time

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The stench of last season is still strong, but you’re right, at least we’re not the Sharks.

Yeah being 11th rocks.

by Megalodon on Jun 9, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you guys win again? The right to not have people say your only Second Round success comes at the Draft table, because you won two more games in the Playoffs and actually have a First Round pick for the first time in three years?

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We may not have won the Cup (again), but at least we were in the game. What did the Ducks do this season? Give up in December or something like that?

(waiting for Rudy to say “not this shit again”)

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saved me some time and money — and maybe bought us another year of somebody near retirement, we’ll see.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

saved my liver..and saved earl from having this drunk hispanic guy bugging him every 5 secs via txt message during the playoff season

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s what makes it funny! Sustained regular season success with nothing to show for it. Even the lack of first round draft picks with nothing to show for it! It’s SO funny! Imagine if Marian Hossa lost in the Stanley Cup Finals again this year! I know he won’t, but imagine. And then next year! All with different teams. SO FUNNY! Would Hossa fans be able to be like, well, look at Ryan Getzlaf, he hasn’t even gotten back to the Finals. Yeah, a lot of players haven’t, so there’s nothing funny there. It’s normal NHL goings-on. But Hossa? SO FUNNY!

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

grrrrr! It’s not funny … you know very well too many Sharks fans are on the verge of taking their own lives … it’s depressing as all hell and it makes no damn sense.

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Ryan Getzlaf is balding and has a crater on his head where his hair should be.

So your argument is invalid.

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by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jun 9, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

the difference is we can laugh about it..you guys cant…you guys are the homer simpson-peter griffins of the hockey world..yo guys are hilarious really

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aren’t you a Giants fan, Ang? Matt Cain has a stat of something like 37 games with six or more innings, giving up two runs or less and no decision. I’m sorry, but that’s hilarious.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you guys win again?

We won the “Not Finishing 11th in the Western Conference” Championship. It’s awesome.

by Megalodon on Jun 9, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like it. In not winning the Cup terms, you guys were finally more than halfway to the Campbell Bowl. Now, if we can only get people to lower their expectations for a team that won three straight pacific division titles, no one will find that finish disappointing or hilarious.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

tee-hee

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

u still dont see the humor in your team do ya

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha!

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

you were not convinced by my regal beard

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spade and classy do not belong together … for proof see a few posts below … :)

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, it’d have to be Bobby. Much as I love the kid.

Getzlaf has too much upside to lose, and since his arrival, has been groomed to be a franchise player and team captain, going so far as to speak publically instead of Scott, who is gunshy infront of large crowds. You don’t ship someone with unreturned leadership investments. Perry will not get nearly the return he’s worth, as compared to what we’d lose if he left. Bobby, I’m sorry, it’ll have to be you.

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by Bleys on Jun 9, 2010 11:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Well, don’t be too sad — fortunately, Hitler didn’t have a soul, so he doesn’t have a ghost.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perry… he’s a douche.

Realistically, Bobby Ryan has the greatest upside, I think. In 2015, he might be the best of the three. Meanwhile, Getzlaf is just awesome.

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by Kevin Y on Jun 9, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I did forget to mention that Getzlaf sort of sucks at faceoffs, but I think that’s an overblown stat anyways. To balance that out, though, he also can be a good pointman on the power play.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kopitar relatively sucks also, but between him, Stoll, and Handzus (the better two of our three faceoff men), Kopitar’s the one I’d rather keep.

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by Kevin Y on Jun 9, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i notice how good getzlaf is when hes not there..then he comes back..its like night and day..hes good hes just stupid

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a Kings fan, i hate Corey Perry. So, if I were the Ducks, I’d keep him. And Getzlaf is a talented playmaking center that isn’t easy to come by. Ryan is supremely talented, but I think he’s the one to go. Plus he’s afford a hefty return.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jun 9, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d trade Perry to some team that plays inside an active volcano or something.

by Megalodon on Jun 9, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

perrys my favorite player right not…but hed be the one to go…ryan is as close to a sniper outside of teemu where gonna have for a while…he makes other lines better..u have to keep him…and you cant trade away playmaking big centers…no matter how stupid they are…

perry is the odd man out..but I agree he would net less….in return..

luckily we dont have make this descision finger crossed…cuz i have a hard on for perry

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

damn i really torched this one…firefox..come save me!!

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally buy that — like I say, no right answers here. To be honest, though, I voted Getzlaf off the island.

I dunno — he’s talented and tough-as-fuck to replace, but with him you’re almost guaranteed some bad leadership. If Niedermayer’s really done, then I’m a bit worried about captaincy-promotion order.

But really, at the heart of it is really really not wanting to play against Corey, and still believing in the future of Bobby as something to protect. I’d probably vote differently tomorrow, though.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

i kinda hate you brought this topic up..makes me soil my panties..

but if they fail to produce for lets say more seasons this will be a reality..guaranteed

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

2…2 more seasons…im on fire today

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, maybe I should have stuck to radio silence — but Lakers posts always seem to wake me up a bit.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

no the cartoon was great..i just have this ugly feeling this descision might come sooner than later..and that makes me a sad panda

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ll see — Bobby’s agent could force the Ducks’ hand a bit sooner than later, but if that’s the case, then probably the decision becomes a bit easier. And at least we’ll have another full year to watch and decide, too — nothing has to be done this summer.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats teh saving grace right there…i really feel these next 2 years are critical…we gotta hope for gawds sake perry and getz come back hungry

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan gets the most in return. He’s an RFA and that means the other team can name their price, while Getzlaf and Perry have big money contracts

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, these days with RFAs it’s a little less certain — cap has gone up since Getzlaf and Perry inked their contracts, and there are some comparables who have signed bigger deals since then.

Getzlaf and Perry are big money, sure, but compared to some other superstars, they’re relatively cheap. Significantly cheaper than Kopitar or Thornton, say. I don’t think it’d be that tough to get a good return for Getzlaf especially.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. The only thing that makes them probably more valuable than players with a bigger salary. If Eric Staal ($8 mil/year cap hit) and Getzlaf were both on the Market, most people would go for Getzlaf just because he’s got a much lower cap hit, even though Staal’s just as good a player as him,

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 9, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

let’s say that the devil visits you in a dream, or perhaps the ghost of Hitler

I hope it’s the devil, I would hate to be visited by naked Hitler.

"The Big Pavelski" sounds like something you'd name your cock.

by brokenyard on Jun 9, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, but I’ve decided who I’m rooting for during the rest of the Cup Finals.

I’m rooting for the Blackhawks in Game 6 and then for the Flyers in Game 7 — either of those results means that the Ducks are still the last team to win a cup in front of their home fans. :)

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

im so on board with that!!

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too.

(This has nothing to do with what Earl said, but because the Flyers are douches)

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jun 9, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmm … guess that’s as good as any other reason thrown out there … :)

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by Angy on Jun 9, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUCCESS!!!

Haha!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling you love it when a plan comes together ;)

There was definitely something anticlimactic about how this year’s finals ended with Kane being the only one in the arena who knew the puck went in for a while. It was funny how quiet it was and then you hear Kane screaming.

In 2007, the anticipation just kept building and building in the last few minutes (definitely after Perry’s goal); everyone was standing and cheering louder and louder until the place exploded when the clock hit 00.00. There’s no place like home! (Hey, I got two movie quotes in on one post!).

by Teddi Flash on Jun 9, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Rob Blake retired today — I guess to help take some spotlight off the cup finals.

Godspeed, other-Blake. That’s the kind of retirement decisiveness that the Ducks really can’t handle.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

the ass-check died today

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And another douchebag is released back into the wild…

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

(throws confetti) I would like to thank Rob Blake for having a peanut-shaped head and for being a dick.

No I wouldn’t.

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by Niesy on Jun 9, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He cost too much and didn’t do much for the Sharks, but I never hated him nearly as much as Pronger even when he was on the Kings or the Avalanche.

I’m glad he’s announcing early though – guys who jerk the fans and management around all off-season are the true dicks.

by Megalodon on Jun 9, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, whatever — I’ll take that over the decisive dudes who sell out to the highest bidder. At least it’s not an auction.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The difference between him and Teemu/Saku is that people actually want them back.

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by Niesy on Jun 9, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay I put up a quick post about Rob Blake, since the media has decided to piss all over his desire to keep it quiet till after the Finals.

by Megalodon on Jun 9, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if I’ll run into him at the Costco in El Segundo again.

by Teddi Flash on Jun 9, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first vote is None of the Above, but then Perry.
I’m always surprised how many points Perry gets in a season, where with Getz and Ryan I always feel like they can do more.

by Mike in OC on Jun 9, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

good point…but i agree with you.. would have picked the none of above…such a wretched poll for a duck fan to have to vote in

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great toon, Earl. I especially like the Joker’s face. But why is he kneeling? To be on the same level with Batduck?

As for the poll, I voted for Ryan because out of the three, he seems the least likely to want to stay in Anaheim. I don’t remember where I read this, but wasn’t one of the reasons he didn’t get a deal done with the Ducks during the season because he wanted a shorter term of years? I think he (more than Perry or Getzlaf) can’t wait to hit free agency and sign a big contract with the highest bidder. I love the guy and what he does, but I think he’s going to be the hardest to keep after free agency.

by g r a c e on Jun 9, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve never read that he wants a shorter term. I know Murray wants a shorter term so they can do another RFA dance under the new CBA, assuming there is one.

I think he’d like a long contract that guarantees him UFA under this CBA, regardless of what the next one says, so he can hit the open market unfettered on his next contract.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, I guess I was making that up. I don’t know much about RFA/UFA rules. Under the current rules, if Ryan’s next contract expires in 2014, he becomes a UFA that summer because he turns 27 in March of that year? So he’s looking for a 4-year contract?

by g r a c e on Jun 9, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is probably an indication that I need to read more AC.

by g r a c e on Jun 9, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me, too.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

me three…my ongoing new years resolution…

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give Arthur credit, he reports the actual news. Whereas, I just make smartass remarks.

Come on over to AC. We’re one big disfunctional family.

And Spade, when we call Wiz the “gingerbread man”, it’s because he’s…sweet. Not because he crumbles to the ice every game :)

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by Jen Neale on Jun 10, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

stay tuned earls helping upload a cartoon i made..u, arthur and the whiz are all part of it..hope u enjoy tee-hee

your name is jen right?…if its not..then your jen in the cartoon lol

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, I’m Jen :)

Wow. Immortalized in a cartoon. This could be the greatest day of my life…

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by Jen Neale on Jun 10, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s posted now — I was in a bit of a haste because I had a phone call today at 10, but just now I found out it’s been postponed until tomorrow.

13 panels — from experience, I can say: that’s a lot of work, Spade!

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 10, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

well it was a lot of copying and scaling…i did it in haste…thank gawd for autocad

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give Arthur credit, he reports the actual news.

yea he does a good job…i get distracted though with rudy and his antics over here

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a three year offer wouldn’t carry him to UFA, which is why Murray made it, and probably why Ryan rejected it. I’d say Murray pays a little more to get one more RFA negotiation under the new CBA out of Ryan. I mean, you really never know what will happen with an NHL CBA. In ‘94, they sold out the young players to RFA status until they were 31 to save themselves from the Salary Cap. Granted, they had found out only a few years before that the NHL pension was a sham, but that just points to the kind of Dark Age goings-on that are the NHL CBA negotiations. It’s why we’ve seen consecutive Lockouts.

And don’t feel bad. I’m pretty much the only one who reads AC.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 9, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty much the only one who reads AC.

WRONG. I read it every day foo

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by Natesaduck on Jun 9, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Joker was cornered and seemingly defeated, but then pulled out his surprise evil tactic.

And yeah, I haven’t followed Ryan negotiations worth a damn, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he also was a 3-year signing. That would make for a huge summer somewhere down the road.

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by Earl Sleek on Jun 9, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

hes so much taller than batduck…seems like he doesnt need to resort to manipulation

great cartoon earl…im gonna start working on one for yea stay tuned

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bobby

I just get the feeling he doesn’t want to play in Anaheim as much as the other two

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by Natesaduck on Jun 9, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he’s willing to stay; however, he knows he’s not going to be the #1 (and only) super star here. I think he wants that as much as UFA status. #1 super star = more tail

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by Jen Neale on Jun 9, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

40 goals = more tail

There's nothing to see here. And nothing gazes back at me.

by Natesaduck on Jun 9, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

famous hockey player = more tail (puck bunnies)
bad ass car = more tail
watch battlestar gallactica = no tail

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 10, 2010 5:29 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

isn’t badass one word though?

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by Natesaduck on Jun 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy dilemma Batduck!

Yeesh. I guess I’ll have to say Perry is the boy wonder who has to go. Perry may not get the best return of the three, but he would probably still get the Ducks some good assets back. Getzlaf, even with his lack of hair and whinny face, is still a player who can dominate and take over a game when he wants to, and that’s a rare commodity. Ryan probably has the most offensive upside and he seems to make other players on whatever line he plays on better, so I think he stays too. And even though he’s the youngest, Ryan is the most mature and resilient of the three; I can see him being better captain material than Getzlaf.

Damn you Hitler’s Ghost!

by Teddi Flash on Jun 9, 2010 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

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