Ducks sign-and-trade WisNYIewski
by Earl Sleek on Jul 30, 2010 8:53 PM PDT
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PrintWeird day. I had about three hours to contemplate the Ducks paying James Wisniewski $3.25 M next season before he was shipped off to the Islanders for a 3rd-round pick. And rather than write something meaningful, why not take the patented Sleek cheap way out and hide behind this cartoon?
Hasty yet effective.
Here's where this leaves the Ducks salary-wise, stealing extensively from Capgeek. Still, of course, missing Bobby Ryan and Teemu Selanne.
| PLAYER | CASH | CAP | YEARS | PLAYER | CASH | CAP | YEARS | |
| Corey Perry | $5.38 | $5.33 | 3 - UFA | Lubomir Visnovsky | $6.00 | $5.60 | 3 - UFA | |
| Ryan Getzlaf | $5.13 | $5.33 | 3 - UFA | Toni Lydman | $3.00 | $3.00 | 3 - UFA | |
| Joffrey Lupul | $4.25 | $4.25 | 3 - UFA | Cam Fowler |
$1.40 | $1.40 | 3 - RFA | |
| Jason Blake | $3.00 | $4.00 | 2 - UFA | Luca Sbisa |
$0.88 | $0.88 | 1 - RFA | |
| Saku Koivu | $2.50 | $2.50 | 2 - UFA | Sheldon Brookbank |
$0.70 | $0.75 | 2 - UFA | |
| Todd Marchant | $1.25 | $1.13 | 1 - UFA | Brendan Mikkelson |
$0.69 | $0.69 | 1 - RFA | |
| Aaron Voros | $0.90 | $1.00 | 1 - UFA | Danny Syvret |
$0.60 | $0.60 | 1 - RFA | |
| George Parros | $0.88 | $0.88 | 2 - UFA | Brett Festerling |
$0.53 | $0.53 | 1 - RFA | |
| Nick Bonino | $0.88 | $0.88 | 1 - RFA | |||||
| Dan Sexton | $0.75 | $0.75 | 1 - RFA | Jonas Hiller | $4.50 | $4.50 | 4 - UFA | |
| Matt Beleskey | $0.66 | $0.67 | 1 - RFA | Curtis McElhinney |
$0.57 | $0.54 | 1 - UFA | |
| Kyle Chipchura | $0.65 | $0.65 | 1 - RFA | |||||
| Ryan Carter | $0.73 | $0.63 | 1 - UFA | |||||
| Troy Bodie | $0.50 | $0.50 | 1 - RFA | Nathan Oystrick Buyout | $0.20 | $0.20 | 2 | |
| 14 F, 8 D, 2 G | $46.49 | $47.14 | ||||||
| Top 12 F, 6 D, 2 G | $44.14 | $44.89 |
For the Ducks, the "CASH" columns matter much more than the "CAP" columns, and it's worth noting that there are about $900k in performance bonuses included in these numbers, $500k on Fowler's contract alone. There's definitely money to spend and plenty of cheap contracts that could be used in a trade -- Ducks seem remarkably set to deal from strength with an over-the-cap team. We can finally do a reverse-Mathieu-Schneider!
Either that or Scott Niedermayer surprises us all with his annual un-retirement. That'd be awesome.
Feel free to add your reaction in the comments -- I'll write more about it later.
Go Ducks.
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According to Eric Stephens, Wisniewski knew the writing was on the wall:
“Wiz on trade: “Once they had a deal done, it seemed like I was gone. Once I signed the deal, I was out of here.”
This either means Murray gets Bieksa or Sutton, or rushes Fowler to the blueline, or maybe even pulls off the dreaded Bobby-for-Kaberle trade. Who the hell knows.
Viva los Patos.
I’m a bit surprised they didn’t tell him outright, as it seems to have been the plan.
We may get a couple moves — lots of teams over the cap, and we should spend around $50M by the time the season rolls around, I’d guess. But hopefully Murray remembers how we got raped in the Schneider deal — two games of Ken Klee, because we were running out of time and flat-out had to get him out the door.
Patience, Barstool, patience! Make them sweat!
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Ugh, don’t remind me about the Ken Klee experiment, haha. I was lucky (unlucky?) enough to see him in a Ducks sweater in person.
Murray can’t be done, though. And I really don’t wanna see if this Fowler experiment turns out like the Sbisa experiment last season, but it could. And yeah, I think it’ll be a while until Barstool makes another move.
Viva los Patos.
Oh, I’m not sure he will wait that long — he may want to show Teemu that he’s serious or ticket buyers or whomever. There’s lots of pressure, I’m sure.
But if he could wait and wait until an over-the-cap GM had to give up some farm, that would be sweet.
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True that. Not surprised Teemu hasn’t signed yet, though. Almost been a month since FA started and he hasn’t made that much noise. But like you said, he could just be biding his time.
Viva los Patos.
Apparently Teemu’s not very good at Red Dead — he must still be doing Mexico missions.
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Fowler was ranked as high as 1st by scouting though. I don’t think Sbisa was ever that high…If anyone can do it Fowler can. We’ll just have to wait it out, till we see what else Murray does…
I rec’d that shit.
I obviously don’t want this to really happen, but if somehow Murray’s next move was to trade away another defenseman for a pick, I would spend a full day laughing at Ducks fans losing their shit on messageboards.
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Is that what you do every December? I’m quite sure it happens every December now….Or October or whatnot…
I rec’d that shit.
By the way, I took a peak at the Islanders’ Facebook page a while ago, and they are absolutely loving this trade, obviously. But this comment caught my eye:
How the hell do you pronounce that? Winskywhiskey???
Of course…
Viva los Patos.
he’s handing him a plane ticket, right? Hysterical. Poor bastard.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 30, 2010 9:52 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, it should have said “JFK” on it in little letters, but I don’t know squat about New York. I texted my sister to find out which airport was the closer one to Long Island, but she responded too late. :)
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You should’ve gone with it. JFK is probably the only one that would’ve fit legibly, and if La Guardia or Newark were better, then it would have been hilarious that they didn’t even send him to the closest airport. That’s a win-win.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 30, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad he’s gone… I never learned how to spell his name. I’m still learning “Neidermeyer”, or whatever the fuck, and they don’t even play in Anaheim anymore.
Denis Gauthier sucks at hockey... and life.
At least you should be able to recall how to spell Visnovsky. :)
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by Earl Sleek on Jul 31, 2010 12:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
what the fuck is barstool up to?…yous makka me sooo crazy barstool bob…ehhh
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 31, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
Of the defensemen we have left, here’s their games played last year as a Duck:
Brookbank — 66
Festerling — 42
Mikkelson — 28
Visnovsky — 16
Sbisa — 8
Total — 160
Ducks fans wanted a different blueline, well we certainly do have that now. As a bonus, I have no fucking idea how to pencil in a top-six these days. :)
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Cartoon Wisniewski’s face looks so heartbroken.
Ah well, at least he can be confident any family visiting for Islander home games will be eating from up-to-code concession stands.
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To me, Wiz was a puzzle piece that sometimes fit and sometimes didn’t. Quite frankly, from the get-go, I wasn’t sure what to make of him. But even so, it’s kind of hard seeing him go because of how pathetic our D looks now on paper. Hopefully Murph DOES have something up his sleeve.
As for the rumblings about Bieksa, I’m not so sure about him. As a Vancouver native, I’ve had a chance to see him quite often and while he’s good, he’s not really as good as people seem to make him out to be.
On a semi-related note, I really miss Beauchemin.
I have to think that Barstool is cooking up something. I didn’t really have any problems with Wiz. On the same note, I have no problems seeing him shipped to the Islanders. I feel like we could have gotten more for him though. 3rd rounder? Really?
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Yeah, that’s the real question — not so much why him or why there, but why was it so hasty if the return was so dismal? Seems if he announced Wis was to be traded or something he could have found a better trade return.
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Scott Cullen at TSN asks the question appropriately:
The third-round pick isn’t particularly valuable and is barely a token price to pay for a defenceman that can log the kind of minutes that Wisniewski did last season; to the point that it’s difficult to fathom that there wouldn’t be another team willing to offer more in exchange for a player that appears to have been vastly undervalued both times that he’s been traded in his career.
Consider that, if the Islanders aren’t in playoff contention next season and are willing to offer Wisniewski around the league at the trade deadline, there is no doubt that they would be able to get more than a third-round pick in return, which makes it all the more surprising that Anaheim couldn’t get more now.
Now a 3rd-rounder is better than the nothing we might have gotten in a walk-away scenario, and it’s not often nowadays you can trade salary for nothing, so those may have been considerations. But it does feel like haste.
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Meh. As far as I’m concerned, Murray gave up on him when the Blackhawks wanted Wiz, a pick AND a prospect for Barker. He thought he was rid of him until that prospect business got him outbid. Murph claims he made a good 4 year offer right after the deadline, but I think he was thinking of walking away at arbitration regardless of the number. We’re probably lucky the Islanders were interested enough to name a salary that Wiz would accept in a sign and trade.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Aug 1, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose, better to get a 3rd rounder then the nothing we would have gotten if he walked. But still, I can’t help but shake the feeling that we got jipped.
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barstool has to have some type of deal setting up…even though the whiz sucked…he still ate up minutes..no way he does this without somthing..
the suspense is fuckin killing me
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Aug 2, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
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