Kings Gameday: Systemic Whining
Raise your hand if you think the Kings' system sucks.
OK, cool.
Now please explain exactly what the Kings' system is. No, not "shitty," but really what the Kings are doing and why that's bad.
Hello?
(*cough)
The hip new thing among Kings' fans has been to blame the system whenever the Kings lose. The Kings don't score? The system. The Kings fail to draw penalties? That darn system, at it again! The Kings get scored on? FUCK YOU SYSTEM! The Kings score a lot and win big? Oh great, glad to see the players were able to overcome THE SYSTEM.
The problem is, that's kinda dumb. The system isn't why the Kings lost last game. They lost because the Devils adjusted well, played well, and the Kings played like dickheads.
The weirdest thing is that people usually complain that the system is too restrictive. That was true the previous few years but this year? The Kings have opened things up this season, I swear to God. The defensemen are far more aggressive. You can see the positives and the negatives of this. Last game, Jack Johnson pursued Ilya Kovalchuk all the way up to the blue line, kept pressure on him, and eventually forced Kovalchuk all the way out of the zone, forcing Kovalchuk to regroup. That's a positive. The negative can be seen in the game against Buffalo, on Buffalo's third goal. Johnson pursued Nate Gerbe to the boards and then Rob Scuderi & Trevor Lewis got mixed up on who was going to cover the space Johnson left. That was the 2nd game of the season, though, and I think they'll figure it out.
(As an aside, I think that's the reason Johnson seems to be improving this season: he's been allowed to be more aggressive.)
They also opened things up on offense. The forwards have a lot more freedom to curl back around and to also make iffy passes in the zone. They still have a man stapled to the front of the net, which is kind of stupid, but c'est la vie. When they enter the zone, they're not dumping & chasing; they're trying to make a play or holding up to let the rest of the team catch up with them.
The Kings' problem right now honestly seems to be that they don't have enough structure on offense. It almost seems like Murray said, "Alright boys, I'm going to open things up on offense so, you know... go score or something. Don't fuck up, though! I'm talking to you, Penner. Everyone else, whatever."
Justin Williams, making an iffy pass as he enters the zone? OK, I'm willing to accept that he knows what he's trying to do and there are going to be mistakes occasionally. Brad Richardson doing the same thing? Fuck that, there's no excuse. The Kings are being told they can be more creative but I don't think they're being told how. Because it's been so tight-fisted before, they're not recognizing the difference between an acceptable & unacceptable risk. It's like dropping a conservatively raised Christian into Mardi Gras right now. There's a reason teams dump & chase; it's because it is pretty easy to do and you're probably not going to get a costly turnover out of it. It's weird to say but I wish the Kings were playing more conservatively on offense, at least on the bottom six.
But it's early. They'll figure it out. They're too good not to. That's one of the good things about having a good team. And I think that's why people whine about the system, because in their minds the team is too good not to win all the time. And that's OK. I like this team, too. But there's a difference between pointing out flaws a team has and the ongoing, systemic whining that has become engrained in the psyche in the Kings fanbase. Before, it was individual players: Dan CLOLtier, Randy Jones is the worst defenseman in the world, fuck you John Zeiler (I actually agree with that one, to be fair). Now that we don't have anyone individually to blame because even idiots can see that Dustin Penner is good, we've moved to the coach. And a lot of people criticize his system because no one's going to call them on what specifically is wrong with it.
I personally think Terry Murray should probably be let go at the end of the season because I think his part has been played. But you can think that without trying to make him into a bad guy so you don't feel bad about letting him go. And you can do it without whining about it like a baby. Murray's a good coach. He may not fit what we need to do anymore, but he's still a good coach.
And when people start complaining about Dean Lombardi and saying we need to fire him, and he eventually gets fired because of it, I will whiiiiiiiiiiine like you wouldn't believe.
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The Kings made a change today, putting Scott Parse on the 2nd line and moving Dustin Penner to the Stoll line with Brad Richardson. Honestly? I'm fine with that. Penner & Brown don't mix well at all because Penner's a half court player and Brown's more run 'n gun. Also, it's been kind of weird in that Brown & Penner have both been trying to play without the puck so the only guy who actually touches it is Richards. Parse can be useless on that line like Penner has been and Penner's in a role where he has to create offense on a line with 2 idiots, a role he has a lot of experience in. I'm optimistic!
Prediction: Kings play pretty well, they make some mistakes, everyone complains some more.
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That’s why Getzlaf’s great — he’s always blameable for anything. Should have set a better example, Baldy!
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In total agreement. I’m having trouble figuring out why Kings fans think they are going to run the table on the season. They lose one game and fans go into panic mode, What’s Bernier doing out there? What’s Penner doing out there? Jeezus, calm down. You think the Sharks are going to be bottom feeders the rest of the season? (I made a funny) This team is gonna figure out its shit and be pretty darn good come the end of the season. Keep talking sense Rudy.
"What if I picked the wrong religion? All I'm doing is getting God madder and madder at me." — Homer Simpson
Well said Rudy.
"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 27, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
played like dickheads.
that described the play of the ducks last 2 home games…this dickhead play goes around socal apparently
"Lots of people ride the waves of disruption that he provides."
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions
the ongoing, systemic whining that has become engrained in the psyche in the Kings fanbase
Are you sure they are not Sharks fans?
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Sounds like Rudy’s been reading some of the comments over at Rich’s site. The stupidity and overreacting often rivals FTF.
I’ve started reading Rich’s articles and then moving on mostly because Rich won’t allow me to respond “you’re a fucking idiot” over and over and over.
Hey Foxy, would you call that a doh-si-doh or a dipsy doodle?
Well, quit being rational or you’ll never poach any of his readers.
Hey Foxy, would you call that a doh-si-doh or a dipsy doodle?
The sad thing is, I’m starting to sense that more and more of the Hammond commentors are making their way into the comments at Quisp and Niesy’s place.
:::Le Sigh:::
"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 27, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I have felt this disturbance in the force as well
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
by Nut on Oct 27, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
disturbance or vergence?…
"Lots of people ride the waves of disruption that he provides."
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
well you got all these lovable ducks fan though to keep you company!
(shotgun blast…thud in rudys house)
"Lots of people ride the waves of disruption that he provides."
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Oct 27, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
They must be drawn in by that sleek logo. :)
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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
haha! If only we could respond that way to people in too many situations in life – not only hockey related. :)
GO SHARKS!
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by angryjay93 on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
In other news, this is fucking awesome. Maybe I’m crazy but I’d probably go to more Ontario Monarchs games than LA Kings games. What do you guys think? Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Ontario, Vegas, San Diego, some Canadian cities?
by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Bring back the Gulls!
"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 27, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Random FYI:
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Oh great! That means I’ll have issues from work again – yay me!
GO SHARKS!
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Off-topic to hockey, but way to be classy Dodgers.
The civil complaint also insinuates that Stow owns some of the blame because, according to McCourt’s attorney Jerome Jackson, "I’ve been doing these cases for 23 years and I have never seen one yet in which it didn’t take at least two people to tango."
Yeah. That’s going to go over well.
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way to be classy
DodgersMcCourts.
Thank you very much.
"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 27, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Not one and the same huh? ;)
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Ahahahahaha, that’s amazing. The McCourts are the worst people in the world.
by RudyKelly on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So if Johnson continues to improve and turns out to be great, we can still call him JMFJ right?
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
Randy Jones was the worst defenseman in the world!
Oh, how quickly can some people forget…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 27, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy, you’re completely right, and i’ll be sad to see murray go if/when he does. I mean who isn’t going to miss that stubborn, irrational, player development/defensive wizard who suffers from tedpurcellophobia.
Oh and SLAAAAAAAVAAAAAAAAA
by lnickerson88 on Oct 27, 2011 10:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The Kings are so awesome.
They are so good that they overcame the horrible system.
I'm warning you! I have ADHD and I know how to use it!!!
Good job Giants, now win 3 more world series titles and then you just might be worthy of being mentioned in the same league as the A's.
THAT IS NABOKOV IN NET NOT NITTYMAKISHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!
San Jose: Being Kept save from ferocious enemies by the Sharks and Earthquakes since 91 and 96.
Unrelatedly, what the fuck happened in baseball tonight? I was checking scores on my phone for some other people, and really?
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The Texas Rangers were one out away, twice
Then David Freese trolled everybody…
One sword keeps another in the sheath.
I hope the not-Cardinals win (I will never root for Texas)
So this stupid “team of destiny” talk around St Louis can go straight to hell…
And besides, if you love anguish, there’s nothing better than 40,000 people in tears…
One sword keeps another in the sheath.
That’s true — plus we haven’t had a G7 riot in a while. :)
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by Earl Sleek on Oct 27, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just think it would be hilarious that two years in a row they make it to the World Series, only to lose.
But I am mean like that at times.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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