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Kings-Sharks Opportunities Through 2 Games

2 games in and... the Kings aren't dead. Huzzah! They even won 1 game! In game 2, the Kings got up early and then played suffocating defense the rest of the game. The biggest key to the Kings' win? In game 1, the Kings allowed 22 scoring opportunities at even-strength, according to Derek Zona over at Copper & Blue; in game 2, they allowed 4.* Overall, the Kings are getting out-chanced at even-strength 26-18 in this series and their team CORSI is -14. It's not good but it's not... terrible.

*Another big difference? In the 1st game the Sharks blocked 29 shots, while in the 2nd they blocked only 4.

The more interesting thing to look at is who specifically is getting outchanced and outshot at even-strength so far. Here is how Todd McClellan was trying to match the lines off draws in Games 1 & 2:

 

Marleau-Thornton-Setoguchi vs. Smyth-Stoll-Williams

Clowe-Couture-Heatley vs. Penner-Handzus-Brown

Wellwood-Pavelski-Mitchell vs. Clifford-Richardson-Simmonds

Mayers-Nichol-Eager vs. Ponikarovsky-Lewis/Moller-Westgarth

 

And here are the numbers for everyone through 2 games:

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On Ice Goals For/Against, Scoring Chances For/Against*, Fenwick For/Against**, CORSI For/Against***

*Scoring chances courtesy of Derek Zona from The Copper & Blue: Game 1 & 2 linked above.

**Fenwick is shots + goals + missed shots for minus all that stuff against.

***CORSI is shots + goals + missed shots + blocked shots for minus all that stuff against.

 

Name Goals For/Against Scoring Chances For/Against Fenwick +/- CORSI +/-
Patrick Marleau 0/1 8/7 -1 1
Joe Thornton 0/2 9/7 2 8
Devin Setoguchi 0/2 7/6 7 11
Ryane Clowe 3/1 11/6 12 12
Logan Couture 2/1 12/5 15 15
Dany Heatley 2/1 10/6 9 8
Kyle Wellwood 1/0 5/5 6 5
Joe Pavelski 1/0 10/4 2 -2
Torrey Mitchell 0/1 6/5 2 1
Jamal Mayers 0/0 2/0 -5 -5
Scott Nichol 0/0 2/2 -5 -7
Ben Eager 0/0 2/1 -5 -2
Doug Murray 2/1 9/7 -10 -9
Dan Boyle 1/1 10/8 -12 -10
Marc-Edouard Vlasic 1/1 11/5 16 19
Jason Demers 0/1 11/6 14 17
Ian White 1/0 2/1 4 4
Justin Braun 0/1 1/3 8 9
Niclas Wallin 1/1 4/6 2 1
Antti Niemi 3/3 25/18 11 14

 

Name
Goals For/Against
Scoring Chances For/Against
Fenwick +/-
CORSI +/-
Dustin Penner
0/2
3/8
-12
-22
Michal Handzus
0/2
3/10
-19
-23
Dustin Brown
0/2
5/7
-14
-19
Ryan Smyth
1/0
6/4
6
9
Jarret Stoll
1/0
2/7
5
8
Justin Williams
2/0
6/6
4
5
Kyle Clifford
2/1
6/6
-6
-3
Brad Richardson
1/1
7/5
1
5
Wayne Simmonds
1/1
5/7
-2
3
Alexei Ponikarovsky
0/0
3/2
-6
-7
Trevor Lewis
0/0
5/7
1
-5
Kevin Westgarth
0/0
2/3
3
1
Oscar Moller
1/0
2/1
3
3
Willie Mitchell
2/1
9/12
-1
-4
Drew Doughty
3/1
9/6
5
7
Jack Johnson
0/1
6/10
-11
-8
Rob Scuderi
0/1
6/10
-13
-15
Alec Martinez
1/1
3/5
-2
-2
Matt Greene
0/1
3/7
-1
-6
Jonathan Quick
3/3
18/26
-11
-14

 

Lot of shit to go through. You'll notice that the supposed "Top lines" for both teams have been the worst on their respective teams; Joe Thornton and Michal Handzus were both given the toughest defensive assignment and both are -2. The difference, though, is that Thornton has probably just been unlucky (one of those goals was the Williams goal that Murray & Boyle flubbed) while Handzus & Co. have been getting their asses kicked by Clowe-Couture-Heatley. Not exactly what you want from your trade deadline acquisition, your best center and your captain (although Brown has been doing well when he's double-shifted, which makes me think it's the other two's fault).

This is what I was of worried about when I wrote before the series that the Kings should try to get Matt Greene against Thornton so they can free up Willie Mitchell & Drew Doughty for Couture's line; that line has been getting Johnson-Scuderi along with Handzus and have been getting killed. Johnson & Scuderi haven't been bad by any means (Johnson has only made one poor defensive play that resulted in his lone goal against), they just haven't been able to wrest possession from Couture's line and thus are getting outshot pretty heavily.

The pleasant surprise of the playoffs thus far has been the excellent play of Smyth-Stoll-Williams. Mostly paired with Mitchell-Doughty against Thornton's line (and the Murray-Boyle defensive pairing), they've been able to play mostly even with that line and have kept possession in the Sharks' zone, which keeps Thornton far from the Kings' net. When I saw that match-up in the 1st game I thought the Kings were completely fucked but they've come out even or ahead thus far. I think McClellan thought Thornton's line would roll over them too. That they weren't able has kept the Kings in it thus far.

Another pleasant surprise? The Clifford-Richardson-Simmonds line has been able to stay even with Joe Pavelski thus far as well. I think that line's a different match-up than Pavelski's line is used to; his line is used to playing defense and counter-attacking but the Kings' line is actually faster than Pavelski's. They've only gotten one fast break and that ended up being the game ender in game 1.

Based on these numbers, the Sharks should be winning but it hasn't been dominating by any means. The Sharks should have won by more in game 1 and lost by less in game 2 but the win-loss result was probably an accurate representation of each team's play.  The big reason the Kings have been competitive has been on special teams; they've gone 3-9 on the power play and held the Sharks to 0-7 when they had the man advantage. That is not going to last. Just like last year, the Kings are hanging in there at even-strength but their luck is going to run out sooner or later. Hopefully Penner & Handzus have pulled their heads out of their asses by then.

It'll be interesting to see how Terry Murray matches lines against the Sharks at home. Todd McClellan seems pretty content to roll his lines and not fanatically line match (he's similar to Murray in that regard), so the Kings should be able to get the match-ups they want. It's tricky: the match-ups in San Jose weren't terrible as the Kings were able to stay even or better in 3 of 4, but the 1 that they lost killed them. Murray could switch it up and pair Handzus and Thornton, but if he leaves Mitchell-Doughty on Thornton then he's even more exposed against the Couture line. I honestly don't know what I'd do. Coaching is hard. Can't wait to find out, though!

(Special thanks to Derek Zona for keeping track of these and also to Edmonton for not giving Derek anything better to do! He'll likely keep doing these the rest of the series so I'll try to link to them in the future. They also do them for other series too if you're interested.)

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Fuck you Doug Murray, I’m not calling you “Douglas” just so you get linked.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Apr 18, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Well then you’d better keep your head up, bitch.

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

…or his mom is gonna blind-side your head into the boards.

by meetyourmako on Apr 18, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, he can’t even knock Penner down

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by Nut on Apr 18, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You and I both know that Douglas Murray would WRECK Rudy.

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I buy a ticket to see that? :)

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done.

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by RudyKelly on Apr 18, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would keep a close eye on Doug Murray

If he shits the bed the way he did on Saturday you don’t want to be anywhere near him.

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by Buck Turgidson on Apr 19, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll try to get to me but Penner will be between us. Murray won’t be able to get around him.

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by RudyKelly on Apr 19, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he wear a red jersey in practice?

Because he skates like the fucking “HEY KOOL-AID” pitcher.

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by Buck Turgidson on Apr 19, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

White will probably come back for game three. I want Wallin benched and I want Braun to play in his place.

Also Todd McLellan isn’t big on matching lines, for the most part. He just wants the players to just play their system and beat whoever the opposition throws at them. It works a lot of the time. So far this series it hasn’t so much.

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Why was Braun out on the PP late in the game instead of Boyle and Vlasic(or whoever else mans the point)?

Also, what do you think about Thornton in front of the net? It kinda seems like a waste of talent to me. The player that sees the ice so well shouldn’t be assigned to screen the goalie. McLellan needs to utilize these skills!

by ScottyKnows on Apr 18, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy on the point on the power play is usually either Boyle, Pavelski, or White. With White out Braun was given a chance because he has a good shot.

I noticed several times on the powerplay in game two that both Thornton AND Marleau were playing the boards or were behind the net, and there was no one in front of the net. After that happened a few times it seemed like Thornton either decided to do it on his own or McLellan told him to do it.

I agree it’s a waste of talent. Thornton should be the passer down low. Marleau has a good shot but isn’t really tough enough to be fighting in front of the net. My choice would be someone like Ryane Clowe or Dany Heatley, who are big tough jerks who can fight in front of the goalie and can shoot well.

That said, the Sharks powerplay was strong all year. I think the disorganization we saw in game two was an anomaly.

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I see. I thought maybe McLellan was giving up since the game was a bit out of reach, which is the wrong message you want to be sending your team.

I wouldn’t put Heatley there either. The guy is a sniper, he also has a decent slapper, maybe use him on the point?

The reason I brought up Thornton is because I noticed it a few times this year vs the Ducks as well. He works so well of the half wall, that’s the best spot for him imo.

by ScottyKnows on Apr 18, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Sharks cough up a puck on PP, Heatley would be the last guy you want to see on that resulting 2-on-1 breakaway. I think that kept it away from the point as a Sharks. No idea if he was ever there with his previous teams.

Heatley’s also very good in the crease.

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by Ivano M on Apr 18, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m not crazy about Getzlaf’s defensive ability either but he works great on the point. Plus, Boyle is still there to cover up in case Heatley fumbles it.

by ScottyKnows on Apr 18, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heatley’s the biggest forward we have, so he’s one of our best choices for the crease.

Los Angeles, like Hell, is not easily conquered.
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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ducks put Perry in front and it seems to work.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Apr 18, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s got a big ass and is really good at deflections.

by meetyourmako on Apr 18, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Derek is great at this. Been hoping over to see his numbers since the playoffs began. But he’s also been doing this all season long, not just for the playoffs. Don’t know who we’ll turn to for this info if / when the Oilers start playing good hockey. :)

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent work Rudy. That’s one of the reasons I was hoping we’d meet in playoffs – your humor about the Kings and the Sharks and your great to-the-point analysis.

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by Ivano M on Apr 18, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

You forgot to mention the travel time.

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, that’s a big one too. Don’t ever have to bail work early.

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by Ivano M on Apr 18, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, am I the only one that caught Doughty kissing Brown in the back of the neck at the end of the game? LOL I knew it!

by ScottyKnows on Apr 18, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s always kissing guys.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Apr 18, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah man, there was so much good footage this weekend. Starting with Doughty then Semin on the bench what I could only assume was a fart, followed by Ovi planting a wet one on Knuble and finally Parros grabbing O’Brian only to let go after being warned by the refs. Good times.

by ScottyKnows on Apr 18, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

what I could only assume was a fart

and this is when you know the place is over run by males.

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

well what did you want it to say? " Looks like his tampon was inserted backwards."

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by tu madre on Apr 19, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it as blatant as Palffy’s way back when?

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by PNK on Apr 18, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another pleasant surprise? The Clifford-Richardson-Simmonds line has been able to stay even with Joe Pavelski thus far as well.

Without Stoll, Richardson was bounced around a good bit. He spent more than 50% of his ESTOI against Pavelski in Game 1, but was out against Couture, Thornton and Pavelski between 3:30 and 3:42 in game 2.

Stoll’s absence forced Murray to change his game plan pretty significantly, and Richardson responded.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 18, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Derek, didn’t catch that.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Apr 18, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

My pleasure.

I thought the Kings were screwed without Stoll, but Richardson was really surprising in game 2. I think Murray will have an easier time managing Richardson’s on-ice deployment at home and should make him more effective.

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by Derek Zona on Apr 18, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Richardson didn’t wait long after missing the playoffs to jump ship in Dallas; free agency doesn’t start until July!

by meetyourmako on Apr 18, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Know what's sad?

The person making me feel best about the Sharks in this series isn’t even a Sharks fan. It’s not Plank, not TCY, not mymclife or Ivano, not ZI or Elvis or Angy or anyone over at FTF. It’s Rudy fucking Kelly.

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by PNK on Apr 18, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

HEY! Why not me?? I’ve always had faith in the Sharks ya twit.

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

you’ve always had faith in the Sharks and nothing will shake that.

That’s like you’re mom telling you she thinks you’re cool. It’s good to know you have that unconditional support, but it does little for your self-esteem.

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by PNK on Apr 18, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

By these criterion

Doesn’t that just mean his opinions of the sharks is less fixed than those of a sharks fan? That doesn’t really seem surprising to me.

by warning on Apr 18, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRAMMAR POLICE

It should either be “By this criterion” or “By these criteria”

Therefore your point is INVALID!

No, but seriously, the big deal is that someone who isn’t necessarily a fan, someone who is in fact a fan of the opposition, seems convinced that the Sharks are a superior team and has a better chance of winning.

It’s like you’re running for class president and the parents of the kid you’re running against come up to you and say “Gee, I don’t think there’s any chance of our kid winning, you should have this easy.” It might make you feel bad for the kid, but hell if even they think you’re gonna win that must be a good sign!

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by PNK on Apr 18, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GRAMMAR POLICE

That’s like you’re mom

:)

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Apr 18, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good effort! Yay!

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grammar fail

And you know what, the only reason I disagreed with you is because I misread your initial post. So just general fail.

by warning on Apr 18, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

grrrr that’s just wrong. My boys just confirmed what you said, but I totally disagree with it.

okay maybe in a roundabout way I can understand it, but I still don’t like it.

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure to come back tomorrow. I’ve some inspiration shit brewing.

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by Megalodon on Apr 18, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are still a giant baby.

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed twice

Shark fans in a "frenzy" after another playoff ouster
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 19, 2011 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need some more POSITIVITY!

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by PNK on Apr 18, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahem … is “rage” the latest word that kids like use? such as “you would RAGE like the rest of us”

/clearly aging myself here

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait you can seem older than you already do?

"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"

— Lubomir Visnovsky

I rec’d that shit.

by Steven Hida on Apr 18, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually .. right this very moment, I can actually seem younger too.

/I am such an idiot.

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s with the / stuff? Are you talking to yourself?

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by idunno723 on Apr 18, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always talk to myself. But this time I decided to hurt myself. (well not intentionally of course)

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by Angy on Apr 18, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Series Goal Differential

Sharks: 3
Kings: 6

I’m sure the Sharks aren’t going to lay an egg again, but I’m pretty sure the Kings aren’t going to give up a goal in the first few seconds either. I didn’t see your stat for “playing like ass” and thus distrust your analysis so I’ll stick with GD.

by Cool Dudes on Apr 18, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a Differential

But whatever. The same stat for the sharks vs. Detroit series last year

Sharks: 16
Detroit: 18

Goal Differential is meaningful over the course of a season. Over a 7 game series, it means nothing.

by warning on Apr 18, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year, I thought Douglas Murray was the worst defenseman on the Sharks. Over this year, I thought he had done enough to convince me he was no longer a liability. Thank you, Doug Murray, for letting your crapiness not only return, but permeate Dan Boyle as well.

God damn Marc Eduard Vlasic is pretty awesome. He had a crappy time on the PK yesterday, but I think the forwards and scheme are screwing him there. 5v5 he is a beast. Someday TMac is going to realize good defense doesn’t require bone crunching body checks and he will finally put Vlasic and Boyle together.

by ruben398 on Apr 18, 2011 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Boyle’s been playing sloppy off-and-on all season. He loses passes between his skates at a maddening pace, particularly right at the blue line, stalling out offensive-zone possession.

by burrowowl on Apr 18, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

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