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Sharks Gameday: Europeaness

Look at all that snow! Jimmy Howard must have sneezed.


 

Disclaimer: Unlike Mike Babcock, I am not a racist. I don't believe that European players are all "soft" or that North American players are inherently better at hockey. This story is just an attempt to attach some definite numbers to the vague perception that I (and probably other people, but who cares about other people?) have about this series that the Sharks are a very North American team facing off against the Red Wings' more international squad. There will be no satisfactory conclusions drawn anywhere in this story but there will be a pretty sweet chart.

The Sharks are up 2-0 in the series heading into Detroit. Both games have ended 2-1, but the final score hasn't really told the whole story of either game. If not for Jimmy Howard deciding to begin playing out of his damn mind, the first two games would have gone to the Sharks by a much wider margin. None of this is especially shocking to Sharks fans, but some people (Pierre McGuire!!!) who don't follow the Sharks closely are wondering how the heck this could be happening.

After last year's 4-1 playoff series victory the Sharks took 3 of the 4 matches between the two teams during this regular season. Adding these first two playoff victories means San Jose has now won 9 of the last 11 games against Detroit. Since the beginning of the playoff series last year up until now, the Sharks seem to be able to dominate the Red Wings. So what gives?

Here's a possible explanation: the Red Wings are just too damn European for their own good.

Star-divide

Obviously there are plenty of players on these two teams that will serve to disprove any of the ignorant stereotypes about North American or "World" players. Douglas Murray is the toughest dude on the Sharks and Niklas Kronwall is a physical presence too (so I'm told - you wouldn't know it from this series so far). Even so, it's not crazy to assume that there are probably differences in general play style that would come from being trained in North America vs. Europe.

So exactly how Europe-y are the Red Wings, compared to the rest of the NHL?

I couldn't find a good visual representation of this information, so I made my own. I used the nationality information from Wikipedia's list of NHL rosters, counted the number of listed players from North America compared to elsewhere, and then subtracted goaltenders from the count because they don't really matter when talking about different styles of team play. This whole process is crude to be sure, but if it's not good enough for you then I recommend you go make your own damn graph.

How about that, huh? What a beauty.

As suspected, the Red Wings are one of the most Europe-y teams around, while the Sharks are very close to having zero skaters from overseas (but love Euro-goalies, for some reason). Nearly all of the Red Wings' biggest stars are European while, aside from the stalwart Douglas Murray and playoff-secret-weapon but sometimes-healthy-scratch Niclas Wallin, all of the Sharks' skaters hail from the U.S. or Canada*.

So what conclusions can we draw from this information? I don't know. Why is it my job to tell you what to think? I made the awesome graph, what more do you want?

Alright, alright, here's your precious analysis: the ongoing series between the Sharks and the Red Wings is the closest hockey fans can currently get to "North America vs. The World" style competition. Sure the Senators are technically more Europe-y, but they're also terrible so they're not a good representation of what European players can really do. The Sharks and the Red Wings have been two of the best teams in the league over the past few seasons, and both squads are packed with All-Stars and Olympians. If you really liked the old All-Star format where players were separated based on their nationality, but always wished that there was actually hitting and defense in the games and that the players actually cared who won, then this series is perfect for you.

That's not to say that either of these teams really play a pure "European" or "North American" brand of hockey. Neither of those styles would work in today's NHL. Quality teams need to combine puck possession, strong fore-checking, talented shooters and passers, and a willingness to hit and fight your way to loose pucks. Both the Red Wings and the Sharks do all of these things very well but, over the past eleven games between these squads, the Sharks have been doing everything better.

In conclusion, if you think the Red Wings are losing this series because they're too European you're probably crazy or a racist.

 

* = But mostly Canada. Actually, aside from Joe Pavelski and the previously mentioned Murray and Wallin, every single other regular roster player for the Sharks is Canadian.

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Europeaness. Heh.

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by J.P. on May 4, 2011 5:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I get it!

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by jwizzle241 on May 4, 2011 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was worried it was too subtle.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell them to get their Europeaness away from our slot!

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this is why, even at my age, I will never grow up – I laughed at this. God I am so immature at times.

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by Angy on May 4, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

im racist…the wings are losing cuz there too euro…actually i have no idea cuz Im not really watching

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on May 4, 2011 6:43 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

there was no intellegence in this post by the way Meg..shame on you..I read bout mortification yesterday…do it meg….do it!!!

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on May 4, 2011 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

This post contained subtraction and percentage…intelligence.

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by whine_country on May 4, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take Vodka over Corn.

Who are you kidding? Maybe Canadians have manners but Americans are eh’holes.

by ScottyKnows on May 4, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that a table not a chart?

by Mogen_david on May 4, 2011 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

My personal definition is that if it has colors, it’s a chart. But yes, you’re right.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two colors does not a chart make.

by Mogen_david on May 4, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for joining Battle of California, King of All Charts. Again, you’re right.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha I kinda' see what your saying, and this is a bit racist, but

I always say Americans don’t choke, and you see Kesler stepping on the gas for Van, and Pavs is always clutch in the P/Os, etc etc. But damn WTF is Datsyuk and why is he so awesome???

by JenLovesHockey on May 4, 2011 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Kesler stepping on the gas for Van

He has scored 1 goal.

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by RudyKelly on May 4, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But Rudy, it was so CLUTCH!

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

muhahahaha

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on May 4, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he also draw that bullshit penalty at the end?

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheating and looking like a cross between a horse and the not-gay-but-gave-another-dude-head guy on Real World is clutch

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by Nut on May 4, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

In preparation for this story I went as far as graphing the Europeaness of teams compared to how many points they got this season, but there wasn’t really any link at all so I didn’t go with that.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Stats are only good when they benefit you.

by Wooster11 on May 4, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO SHARKS!

So … North America > Europe … I think we knew that already. :)

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by Angy on May 4, 2011 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

This article is way too long so I’m just going to read the bold parts….

Yes, they are way too Europe-y and yes, that All-Star format is great. Go Blood!

by ScottyKnows on May 4, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Why does this chart seem to indicate that Ottawa only has 17 players and Detroit has 34?

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s based on Wikipedia’s rosters, which I think only list currently signed players or something. I don’t know.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s based on Wikipedia’s rosters

It must be right, then! So that’s what they mean when people say the Red Wings have a deep roster!

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Senators have filled out their roster with a bunch of African, Australian, Asian, South American, and Antartican players!

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

European on my boots!

Dump and chase

by cmatthew35 on May 4, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

"make your own damn graph"

Ok, I ain’t gonna do that, but here is a great graph. OK it ends in 2007, it just shows how from then to now sharks have been ineffective.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 4, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Here’s my chart of how many people have been killed by ducks since 1990:

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not a chart; it’s monochromatic!

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is awesome

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on May 4, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

ducks cause alot of damage

18 August 2006. A CL-RJ 200 departing Salt Lake City International Airport flew through a flock of northern pintails (ducks) at 500 feet AGL. Pilot saw 2 birds and felt them hit the engines. Engines began to vibrate. Aircraft landed without incident and was towed to the hanger. ID by the Smithsonian, Division of Birds. Time out of service was over 24 hours and costs to repair engines totaled $811,825.

15 March 2007. A B-767 departing Chicago O’Hare encountered a flock of birds at <500 feet AGL. People on ground reported flames shooting out of the #1 engine. The aircraft returned to land without incident and was towed to the terminal. Birds were ingested in both engines, but only 1 engine was damaged. Remains of nine male canvasback ducks were found near the departure end of runway 9R. ID by the Smithsonian, Division of Birds. Time out of service was 12 days. Estimated cost for repairs is $1.8 million. Cost for aircraft’s time out of service was $309,000

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 4, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what you’re saying is that Ducks can do a lot of damage, but they still end up dead.

yep. sounds about right to me.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

and they only damaged half of the engines they “were ingested” in!

Time out of service: 24hrs!

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont go mixing up the reports. Time out of service 12 days for half the engines being damaged. Both engines damaged TOOS 24 hrs.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 4, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

bottom line, is this data on penalties vs suspensions?

:-)

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 4, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The duck boat just capsized. It was probably sharks that killed those Hungarians.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their hovercraft was probably full of eels.

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You guys are dumb. A) Mascots responsible for deaths are cool, and B) Kings have killed way more people than ducks or sharks.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on May 4, 2011 5:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

nah

Kings send other people to do their dirty work.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently you don’t watch Game of Thrones! (*goes off to play Dungeons and Dragons)

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by Nut on May 4, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahahaha. nope. I hear good things, but I spent all my premium TV money on NHL Gamecenter Live.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lord Stark isn’t a king and King Robert doesn’t do much killing after he is made king.

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by PNK on May 4, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The king hasn’t killed anyone yet. He just had his hand kill an innocent dire wolf. Real bad ass…

by ScottyKnows on May 5, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad there’s not a team named the Manitoba Black Plague.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or the Portland Inquisition.

by meetyourmako on May 4, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

So,

what is the team in Manitoba called? Oh, wait…..

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by justin1985 on May 4, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

It was sarchasm.

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by justin1985 on May 5, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. I thought you were making a jab at Winnipeg.

by meetyourmako on May 5, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was.

The Jets left 15 years ago.

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by justin1985 on May 5, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would it be inappropriate

to name a team after the Holocaust?

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by PNK on May 4, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This isn’t a productive area of discussion.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

but it’s totally cool to name a team after the burning of Atlanta in 1864 (Atlanta Flames)

by Sharkman553 on May 5, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s your source?

by Hollander on May 4, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found a wings graph

this comes up when you google “wings graph”.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 4, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I picked Washington winning their series in 7, so I’m sure hoping they win tonight. I’m not too worried though, since pretty much everybody in our pick ’em also picked Washington.

I also like Washington a lot and wanted them to win the East but Tampa Bay and their awesome coach and old mummy goalie have really won me over.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t I pick Tampa? I think i did. =/ Where’s the list?!

by ScottyKnows on May 4, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, looks like you had Caps in 5. Sorry dude.

Check here.

by g r a c e on May 4, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go team BoC!

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just so you know, Meg, if the Sharks win this series, I’m going to revoke your edit privileges and change all your picks.

by g r a c e on May 4, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here it is. Click on the “Round 2” tab on the bottom.

Pretty sure you picked Caps in 5, bud.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noooooooooooooooooooooo! I thought I picked Bolts in 5!! Lame :(

by ScottyKnows on May 5, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i did NOT see that one coming. certainly not a sweep!

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe It is because I am biased, but I think I was more surprised the Yotes were swept. Detroit was without one of their best players

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 4, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was surprised that the Coyotes weren’t more effective. I expected the entire West to be a war.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I picked Tampa, but i also picked the Flyers =\

I thought Pronger would be playing!

by Khaaz on May 4, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far,

the only series’ I have gotten wrong are the Det-Phx, TB-Pitts and now this Washington series (barring a miraclulous comeback)

My Western Final: SJ-VAN
East: Wash-Boston

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 4, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I had too

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by PNK on May 4, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason I would have thought the Coyotes were higher on that list.

(delayed commenting on the Europeaness chart)

Hi. Why are we losing?

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 4, 2011 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait, is the game over?

Why are there no comments other than me? NHL.com says 16:00 to go in the 3rd?

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 4, 2011 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

 it’s just been quiet ’round here

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 7:14 PM PDT reply actions  

it’s good to have some company. Especially since this TSN feed is making me crazy.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

oy, sorry ’bout all the reply FAIL.

by sixteen.wins on May 4, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was busy today...

but WOOOOOOOOO DEVIN SETOGUCHI!

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by idunno723 on May 4, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good job representin’ Justin. I have a job – that’s why I wasn’t around.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

After spending the day with phrases like “Europeaness is soft” and “Europeaness is small” echoing around my brain, I was trying some natural enlargement with herbs.

I also had to work.

Hooray for DVRs! GO SHARKS!!!

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by whine_country on May 4, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

you guys are getting to Montreal in ’93 territory. Meaning I fucking hate you.

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by Nut on May 4, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey look, I forgot to make a prediction for this game. I’ll make one now:

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus, that OT call against Setoguchi was so terrible. Bertuzzi is the biggest shithead cheater ever.

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by Megalodon on May 4, 2011 11:23 PM PDT reply actions  

It was his diving that caused him to get a penalty.

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by RudyKelly on May 5, 2011 6:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If you act like a bitch, you get treated like a bitch

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by Nut on May 5, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do bitches get to score playoff hat tricks and OT winners in Detroit? If so well then I guess I’m just a big bitch.

Take that!

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by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are a spelling bitch

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on May 5, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not you, Setoguchi. And yes, bitches score hat tricks and OT winners all the time (Corey Perry)

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by Nut on May 5, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was so great watching Trotz talking about the Weber penalty in OT. Embellishment, ha! Kesler is my new hero.

by ScottyKnows on May 5, 2011 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Wikipedia has a sense of humor!

by ScottyKnows on May 5, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

They think the lightning can beat the Bruins?

Dump and chase

by cmatthew35 on May 5, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO WORM, IT KNOWS THE LIGHTNING WILL BEAT THE BRUINS!

DO NOT QUESTION WIKIPEDIA!

by Khaaz on May 5, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow that's incredibly funny/awesome

That should’ve been the result of the ’04 playoffs too.

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by pooponastick on May 5, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watched game 3 twice...

I recorded the game last night and afterward my friend who is a wings fan and had a softball game came over to watch it delayed. I was happy to watch it again right away and tried not to tip him to the outcome. Here are some facts I take away from the game and the series so far:

-Detroit dominated game 3 and Niemi and Seto stole it
-Detroit hasn’t played a bad period yet in the series
-Sharks making a strong push at the end of these games (age? endurance?)
-Sharks were incredibly disciplined in game 3 (no cheap shots, retaliation etc.)
-Heatley took his hit like a man and came back and played pretty well
-Wallin is actually looking pretty solid in this series
-With Ferriero and Mayers Sharks have found their best lineup yet (I love Eager’s skills for a 4th liner, but he’s too reckless and his game is a bad tradeoff in the playoffs)
-Thornton and Niemi are settling in and finding their A-game

by HaroldRamis on May 5, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Good stuff here.

-Detroit hasn’t played a bad period yet in the series

I think this is what I really appreciate about this series so far. We are seeing great hockey played by BOTH teams. Sure it would be tough for me to be happy about it if it was my team that was down 0-3, but as a fan of hockey I like that these games are close and well-played. The Sharks have made fewer mistakes than they did against the Kings and have been putting together really solid games and the Red Wings have been playing like the powerhouse that everyone knows they are.

-Heatley took his hit like a man and came back and played pretty well

Kronwall’s hit was solid and clean, and Heatley impressed me by coming back and seeming to not be rattled – and making that really important shot-block too.


-With Ferriero and Mayers Sharks have found their best lineup yet (I love Eager’s skills for a 4th liner, but he’s too reckless and his game is a bad tradeoff in the playoffs)

I agree for sure about Ferriero (I got excited when he took some shifts on the second line while Heatley was taking a breather) and I agree that Eager is not the right choice. Mayers hasn’t seemed great to me, but as long as he’s not making glaring errors that’s good enough for the fourth line I suppose.

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by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kronwall’s hit was solid and clean

He left his feet.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on May 5, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys do that all the time on big hits as part of the motion, and it doesn’t get called and doesn’t seem to really make the hit more dangerous or anything. If it’s supposed to be against the rules to leave your skates at all during any portion of a hit then the officials aren’t calling it 90 percent of the time, and it’s a stupid rule for homos anyway.

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by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drawing from Harold's pic/avatar/whatever, cue Drew Remenda:

YOU CANNOT LEAVE YOUR FEET. You can leave the ice, with your feet, but you CANNOT leave your feet.
(SLNC)

Therefore you cannot leave your skates either, unless they fall off as you leave the ice with your feet.

Let’s hear it for Drew!

(crickets)

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by whine_country on May 5, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

That rant was awesome. Perfect use here too.

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by pooponastick on May 5, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That, right there, is exactly where SLNC jumped the shark.

by meetyourmako on May 5, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

By leaving its feet, no less.

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by whine_country on May 6, 2011 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on May 5, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also: are you the real Harold Ramis? Because that would be cool.

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by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought (well maybe more assumed)

there was an SBN rule against fake IDs? Like I can’t decide to create a Shane_Doan19 ID and start posting with it?

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 5, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although,

now that I actually google who Harold Remis is…. nevermind.

Per Mare, Per Terras

by justin1985 on May 5, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if that rule exists, but you should try that Shane Doan thing and we’ll find out.

Gentlemen, start your less expensive, more efficient Japanese-made engines!
Battle of California

by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have contemplated claimed that i was in fact Tyler Ennis because, only using a comb, i could make a pretty believable disguise (as long as they don’t see how tall i am)

On the Mike Weber bandwagon!
Sabres took the scenic route, but they still MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS!!!1

by Ubiquitous on May 6, 2011 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Sharks are a good enough team now to consistently earn victories. If Niemi is on his game he is good enough to steal a victory even when the team hasn’t earned it (game 3 v. DET). I like the combination.

Plus if Vancouver is in round 3 they will be the favorite, creating a low-pressure situation for the SJ/DET winner. I think we can all agree that the Sharks play better playoff hockey when they aren’t expected to win.

by HaroldRamis on May 5, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

God the Canucks are sacks of shit. Cannot be said enough.

For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on May 5, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Are you speaking of the team or their fans. Cause their fans are sos’s.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on May 5, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the team, but their fans are horrible too (except for most over at ‘Nucks Misconduct, who are surprisingly cordial). I can’t stand watching everyone on their team skate into an opponent and then pretend they’re shot. (I know Brown accentuates penalties too, but it’s normally “where there’s smoke, there’s fire” and he plays tough. These assholes create the contact and then act like they were assaulted. Such as Kevin Bieksa at the end of the first period when he skated backwards into Shea Weber then flipped like he was tripped and slashed Weber’s arm for good measure).

For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on May 5, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cue Jack Edwards...

GET UP!!!

Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Banworthy.

by whine_country on May 6, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dustin Brown has become Dustin Clown.

by ScottyKnows on May 6, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wooooo
The passport delay that kept Logan Couture’s parents from making the drive from London, Ontario, for Game 3 in Detroit has been resolved. Chet Couture said in an email that the passports arrived on Thursday and that he and his wife Lori are excited about being in the stands at Joe Louis Arena for Game 4 on Friday. -David Pollak

"You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain Kent Huskins!" - Randy Hahn 2/13/11

by pooponastick on May 5, 2011 10:10 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

With Chet in attendance the Red Wings won’t dare try and win.

Gentlemen, start your less expensive, more efficient Japanese-made engines!
Battle of California

by Megalodon on May 5, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

How are the Sharks not an international squad? MOst of the team is from Canada.

by ScottyKnows on May 10, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

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