Lines & Tigers & Bears, oh my!
I'm sick of waiting to see if the Sharks make any more moves, so I'm going to talk about the forward lines right now. This post could become obsolete in an instant if the Sharks sign anyone worthy of playing on the top three lines, but it's either this or more Goosebumps stories so here we go.
Top line
Joe Thornton is a lock to be on the top line, obviously, but after that things aren't set in stone. Patrick Marleau is the most likely left wing, after the success the two have had playing together for most of the past two seasons. Joe's going to be the regular center for sure, but we can assume a bit more flexibility in his positional play than there was in the past.
Towards the end of the past regular season when Joe was a bit hurt he stopped taking face-offs and ended up playing more of a left-wing role, using his big reach to handle more defensive responsibility and generate takeaways. This experiment generated some nifty opportunities with Boyle jumping up into the play (see the videos towards the end of this post for examples). It's unlikely the left-wing/center swap for Thornton and Marleau will ever become a regular thing, but it's nice to know that the option is there.
The right wing on the top line is the biggest question mark for the team right now, with the two most obvious candidates for the role now freezing to death in Minnesota. My personal choice for the top line right wing would be newbie Shark Martin Havlat. Havlat is motivated to prove himself and his speed should be a good fit for Joe's passing ability. Patrick Marleau is a really fast player too, so those two on the wings for Thornton could make for an explosive line.
On the other hand, according to the closest we have to any official word on the lines, a brief mention in Working the Corners last week, the current thinking is that it would be better to split Marleau and Havlat up. According to David Pollak,
...the idea is to put a speed threat on each of the two lines [...] Marleau on one line, Havlat on the other.
If this turns out to be correct, then the open wing on the top line will probably be filled by either Joe Pavelski or Logan Couture.
Joe Pavelski is a surprising choice. I wouldn't have even considered it a serious possibility if not for Pollak's article, since Pavelski's performance and style of play over the past couple of seasons seemed to make him a natural fit for the second or third line center position. Everything is really tentative right now, obviously, and the line information we have isn't anywhere close to "official" or anything, but David Pollak is a reliable reporter and he thought this was worth mentioning, so the option is at least being considered. The team has to think long and hard about moving Pavelski out of the center position though - he wins a lot of face-offs and was hardly ever shifted to the wing during the past season.
If it's not Havlat or Pavelski who plays on the top line, I'd expect it to be Logan Couture, under the "Logan is young so he won't mind if we make him play something other than center" clause. Couture and Ryane Clowe really meshed well together last year, so I'd be hesitant to break up that chemistry on the second line, but it's something that the team might want to try out given their current roster. Thornton and Couture together is not something we have seen very often at even strength - the two were never on a regular line together during the past season - so it's hard to predict how this hypothetical line would work out.
Finally, in my opinion the least likely potential candidate for the top line: some other guy. If the team decides against Havlat or Couture/Pavelski, and doesn't trade for or sign someone else, then they're going to play the "let's gamble on the next Jonathan Cheechoo!" game and put some random young guy up there and hope for some magic. Fear the Fin covered this possibility in detail, arguing that someone like Jamie McGinn could score around twenty goals playing with Thornton, and I certainly agree that isn't too far-fetched.
Second line
The second line last year was great once Clowe, Couture, and Heatley started playing together. At times, especially early in the playoffs, the second line was more dangerous than the top line, though injuries to Clowe and Heatley slowed everything down by the end of the Detroit series.
If Ryane Clowe continues to produce at the rate he did over this past season, he will most likely be staying on the second line. If for some reason his scoring takes a dive then he could potentially get dropped down to the third line - but let's hope it doesn't come to that.
The Sharks have too much depth at the center position and they're a bit thin on the wings, so somebody is going to have to move out of their comfort zone, and the second line is probably where this is going to happen. Joe Thornton is a lock for the top line center and Michal Handzus has "third line shutdown guy" written all over his goofy face. So we're left with two natural centers, Joe Pavelski and Logan Couture, who are both way too good to center the fourth line (there's also Torrey Mitchell, another center, but he's already been pushed to the wing often enough that re-positioning isn't an issue).
As previously discussed, Joe Pavelski has rarely been shifted out of his center position, so my first instinct would be to say that Couture will move to the wing, but that runs counter to what David Pollak reported as the rough-draft lines a week ago. If Pollak's top lines turn out to be correct, then Pavelski will move up to the first line and the second will be Clowe - Couture - and Havlat, which sounds sufficiently awesome to me. This configuration also has the added bonus of putting Havlat exactly where Dany Heatley was playing, so it will be easier to look at his performance and see which team ends up winning that controversial trade.
If neither Couture nor Pavelski gets bumped up to the top line wing then the second line should probably consist of Clowe as the left wing, Pavelski as the center, and Couture as the right wing. Couture's good enough and young enough that it would be worth giving him a try on the right side. If it works then you've solved the "too many centers" problem, and if it doesn't then let the line shuffling begin.
Third line
The best third line the Sharks had last season featured Torrey Mitchell, Joe Pavelski, and Kyle Wellwood. The three centers combined to make a puck-cycling machine that produced some of the best shifts for the Sharks in the first two rounds of the playoffs. Unfortunately, this line won't be returning this season. It doesn't look like the Sharks will sign Wellwood, and the acquisition of Handzus almost certainly bumps Pavelski up to at least the second line.
Mitchell will probably play one of the wings, Handzus will take the center, and the other wing is fairly open. Jamie McGinn could play here, unless something radical happens with the top two lines and someone like Clowe takes this spot.
While last season the third line provided a fair amount of scoring with Pavelski centering it for most of the year, this year we'll have Handzus lumbering around instead. Handzus isn't going to make a lot happen offensively (he only had 30 points last year despite playing a full season) and neither Mitchell or McGinn are likely to put up a ton of points playing with him as their center, so this is going to have to be more of a shut-down line than the Sharks have seen for a while. This could either turn out to be a great strategic asset for San Jose or a step backward for the team offensively, and I'm nowhere near smart enough to predict which it will be.
Handzus is supposed to be sort of a defensive specialist but the numbers don't necessarily back up his talents in this regard. At a certain point the dividing line between "defensive forward" and "guy who plays a lot but doesn't score" gets a bit blurry.
In other words, I'm a little worried about what's going to happen on this third line, but I'm hoping for the best.
Fourth line
The fourth line this season should just be a big chemistry set. Let's throw some stuff together and see what happens!
I really want Benn Ferriero to make the team, so I'm hoping he gets a regular spot on the fourth line. I've tried to convince myself that he really is one of the best young prospects the Sharks have but if I'm being honest I just enjoy that he looks like Keanu Reeves. Anyways, it's the fourth line so during the regular season it doesn't really matter that much. The Sharks will get reliable scoring out of their top lines and Dan Boyle and Brent Burns so they should take advantage of the opportunity and give young players a chance to establish themselves in the NHL.
Other guys that will probably get a chance on the fourth line include Andrew Desjardins, Brandon Mashinter, John McCarthy, and Tommy Wingels. TOMMY WINGELS!
In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast.
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but it’s either this or more Goosebumps stories so here we go.
ill take this 100 times over goosebumps stories..to be honest it was the first post of yours i didnt finish reading
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 5:42 AM PDT reply actions
I didn’t even bother reading it. I just went straight to comments.
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You guys missed a shocking ending. Not necessarily satisfying, but I didn’t see it coming.
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Not necessarily satisfying, but I didn’t see it coming.
That’s the Goosebumps slogan.
Also it’s my slogan.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The ladies must love you then
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jul 19, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t underestimate the value of surprise.
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Or disappointment.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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Fool comment applies to you as well.
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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I’m not a fool. I didn’t fall for all of meg’s links to “vote for a story”, which we all know is a scam to steal our identity through backtracing the IP addresses
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You people are horribly mean. Hockey Goosebumps was awesome. It got rave reviews!
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What?!?! Are you crazy, it was a great story. Go read it you fool.
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im a fool for boobs and merlot wine
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
TOMMY WINGELS!
the only shark I will ever love!!!..
me and him are gonna get ice cream and play with trains later yay!!!
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 5:48 AM PDT reply actions
I’m glad you summed this all up with a diagram. Reading all that this early in the morning, well some things just don’t sink in.
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Handzus is awesome defensively, but he did have an off year last year.
He is a great shot blocker, positionally always in the right spot, and has a good stick for breaking up plays. Last year he seemed extra slow and didn’t contribute as much offensively as he normally did. So even though it pains me to have him gone hopefully the Kings picked the right time to say goodbye and he’s horrible for you. Love you, Ostrich
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
Last year he seemed extra slow
Oh, awesome, that’s usually the kind of thing that spontaneously goes away.
Damn it. Prove me wrong, Handzus!
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His first season with us he was recovering from injury and was slower than a debt ceiling decision, then was awesome the next season. So if I were you I would hope he was hampered by injury last season and he’ll rebound, not that he was just getting old.
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was slower than a debt ceiling decision
oh nice
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
slower than a debt ceiling decision

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I'm with Megalo
on the top line, anyway. :)
Marleau-Thornton-Havlat
Couture-Pavelski-Clowe
McGinn-Handzus-Mitchell
Wingels/Mashinter/McCarthy/McLovinLaren-Desjardins-Ferreiro
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Support for this musing
someone like Jamie McGinn could score around twenty goals playing with Thornton, and I certainly agree that isn’t too far-fetched.
I don’t want anyone on the top line where it’s even in question. And I don’t want 20 goals, I want 30. It has to be Havlat or Cooch.
Further, Cooch should be on the second line to give two proven centers to each of the scoring lines. Clowe doesn’t drop to the third. He’s going to have another career year.
That third line will be nice; I don’t really care how much speed Handzus has lost if he’s with M&M.
I was going to just put McLaren as the fourth line LW, but I guess it will be the softest spot. I’m still expecting Sharks to add at least one bottom-six forward, so maybe that won’t be an issue. Desjardins looked pretty good and Ferriero, well, whoa.
That’s all I’ve got.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I’ll leave that one to…
RudyKelly, Joke Explainer!
He hate me.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
You are so solid.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
She was telling you you’re fat, but in a kind way.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes zero sense and there’s nothing wrong with being fluffy!
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes zero sense
???
I’ve actually heard that before, and that’s how it was meant, so…yeah.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s just a shame that we’re discussing this instead of my insightful and salient remarks about line combinations
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
we dont want to waste 3 minutes of our life
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A chance at intellectual value, and you just pissed it away. :)
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like the time I missed “sex in the wild” on the discovery channel
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Rudy’s got it on DVD?…
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
he starred in it….
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If we have to go with the players we have now, I vote we move Ferriero to right wing with Clowe and Couture. They played well together for a time this past season. I don’t like putting Pavelski on the wing but I guess that’s the curse of having too many bad-ass centers. Also it makes our top line the Hella Copter line.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Also it makes our top line the Hella Copter line.
Plank and TCY were WAY too proud of themselves for that.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it,
but yes, Fear the Fin commenters can end up beating, shooting, stabbing, and drowning the same dead horse.
It only works because Dan Rusanowski was already WAY too proud of himself for “the Helicopter Line.”
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
same here…shitballs
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice I was totally picturing the “whoa” from the Matrix, but this works about as well.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The original is still the best.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still expecting Sharks to add at least one bottom-six forward
You called it. Although going solely on the stats Andrew Murray is more like a bottom 1 forward at best. We’ll see.
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Fuck
Another Murray? This shit’s getting out of hand! We’ve got more of them than California teams now.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
what caphit? if he comes cheap he doesn’t hurt …
but on the other side….. sharks…. gogo put him on the topline !
With those stats I’m sure he doesn’t get paid very much.
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You called it.
WOOOOOOO!!!
Oh, it’s him. BOOOOOOOOO…
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Confirmed #Ducks Andrew Cogliano has settled:2011-12: $2,150,0002012-13: $2,350,0002013-14: $2,670,000
That would seem to be an overpayment to me
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Well, we won’t have to negotiate anytime soon with him, and it’s essentially Marchant money. Hopefully he can win some faceoffs.
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Also, I think his arbitration hearing was today — we’ll see what people make out of that to see how much an overpayment it might be, but seems the Ducks and Cogliano both wanted multi-year instead of the one.
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Wow
This makes a much more shocking finish to Meg’s post.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
So per my spreadsheet, that brings the Ducks to about $54.0M against the cap for 12F, 7D, 2G and $51.9M in real dollars. Now just to fill in that blank Teemu salary.
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That, and a comment from Albert K.
Maybe this is how the Ducks are going to spend up to the cap…
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
That, and a comment from Albert K.
murray sucks!!…there u go…
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just for reference:
For instance, Winnipeg avoided arbitration with Blake Wheeler on Monday as it signed the winger to a two-year contract that will pay him $2.45 million in 2011-12 and $2.65 million in 2012-13. Wheeler, who’ll be 25 on Aug. 31, has averaged 19 goals and 23 assists in three seasons.
So that one’s a $2.55M cap hit for two seasons. Cogliano has averaged 14 goals and 22 assists the last three years, and will be $2.39M cap hit for three seasons.
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Good point, but 9 GM’s out of 10 would take Wheeler over Cogliano.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
Marleau-Thornton-Couture
Clowe-Pavelski-Couture
McGinn-Handzus-Mitchell
Making your top line Marleau-Thornton-Pavelski would be retarded, so you definitely shouldn’t do that. This looks pretty good, although that 3rd line seems pretty weak to me. But what the hell do I know, anyway.
Marleau-Thornton-Couture
Clowe-Pavelski-Couture
McGinn-Handzus-Mitchell
I’m pretty sure this won’t work unless Couture is a robot that never gets tired.
You probably mean Havlat for the first or second I think.
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The Couture felt....
tired
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jul 19, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
EXCELLENT
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
But what the hell do I know, anyway.
You know you can do a shitload of lunges. At least once.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
...
scrat!!!! he was the best
i’m really sorry (at least we can pretend that i am) for this is not sharks related but selänne pics are always acceptable, no?:)

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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
by sleza on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I can see it now
Parros-Cogliano-Selanne?
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Guess this is better than me being stuck on the phone hacking drama that’s been going on. I had to close the window of the questioning that’s going on. Between the debt nonsense and phone hacking, this summer is flying by.
GO SHARKS!
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Crouching Finman, hidden Moustache.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Man
Teemu would totally fit in a Western movie
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
from twitter
Logancouture Congratulations to Chris Osgood on a great career. And thank you for letting me score my first NHL goal on you! #flutterfivehole
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by sleza on Jul 19, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
its his enviroment
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Dumbber…You should see the tweets where he acts gangsta.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s like twelve years old and he’s Canadian – it’s not his fault he’s goofy.
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Better than a douche.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
you have a gutless player on your top line! haahaaa
Bobby Ryan has never won anything in his entire life. Discuss.
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Neither have the Kings during Bobby Ryan’s entire life.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
BUUUUUUURRRRRN

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
We’ve won that which you shall never know: Respect
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
I’ll take it
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
What happened to the rumors regarding the Islanders sending an offersheet to Doughty?
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
twas bullsheet. Even if they did, you think he would sign?
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
He might want the challenge of fronting DiPietro (and Nabby)…?
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Prolly not, but I’m sure the Kings would match. I imagine it’d be a lucrative offer and was hoping the Kings would be in CAP hell once they matched it.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
nice idea but if I’m Doughty would take the risk. Its pretty funny that the Flames are right up against the cap and they are going to be horrible.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
So, Doughty has to sign before the Kings need to match it? He can just ignore it and the Kings don’t even bother? I’m not clear on all the offer-sheet details.
The Flames are great. Plus they just signed offensive dynamo, Morrison.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you can’t just force him to play on the Islanders
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Like Nabby? :)
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean he has no choice just because they sent an offer. I was just unclear on the order of which things are done.
Hopefully it’s a nice front loaded contract paying him 15 million in the first year with an annual Cap hit of 9 million. =)
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Stanley cup, Hart and Richard winning douche vs man with eyebrows. I’ll take my chances with the douche.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll take my chances with the douche.
Not the first time, I’d wager.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
your really rolling the dice…depends how hot the chic is
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
At least she won’t smell down there
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thats the positive thinking im looking for….your heading up my marketing team!!
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
2009 – As he sits alone in front of a giant cake in a balloon-filled gymnasium with a party hat tilted sadly to one side, Joe Thornton begins to realize that fans aren’t really interested in helping you celebrate your day with the Presidents’ Trophy.-Down Goes Brown
ha ha ha
Jumbo Joe has a wooly mammoth, therefore everyone wants to hang out with him.
GO SHARKS!
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Yeah I went to the Teal and White game at the Tank and got my picture taken with the President’s Trophy and got to skate around on the ice and took my picture in the penalty box and everything. It was a good party, but there was no cake.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
all about carrot cake or german chocolate..all other bow down!!
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck German chocolate cake!
I always get it, thinking “Hey, Germans make great chocolate” and realize only too late that it means there’s a bunch of coconut on my cake.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hahahahahaha, totally.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
what the hell are you guys overseas call a german chocolate cake?!?!?! why on earth would you associate germany with COCONUT :D
I don’t know, it’s completely fucked up.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
its delicious..like an orgasm in my mouf
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What? RudyCake?
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s a little disturbing image…
Мы в любовь играли,
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First time here? :)
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its delicious..like an orgasm in my mouf
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 2:39 PM PDT
C’mon, Rudy! How do you read that and not go there?
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
but that ranks just above golf and somewhere below duck hockey on an entertainment scale.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I deleted all that stuff that was here. Jesus Christ, people.
WWJD?
Seriously, should I be sorry I missed it? Or was I involved and somehow I’ve forgotten already?
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
yea it was a bit much…sorry BOC
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I love coconut.
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by Angy on Jul 19, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hehehe hold your horses, don’t send her over here…. creepy old coconut loving grandmas… no thanks !
by Freakle on Jul 19, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
1 – I am not creepy
2 – I am not old
3 – I am not a grandma
Get your facts right dude!
UGH!
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when it is generally accepted that you were eligible for social security the year it began, you are old.
These are the demands and sayings of tohon
by tohon on Jul 19, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s way easier to get the milk out of those, for sure.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Just to let you now man, I’m in Minnesota right now, and we are not freezing. The heat index is 118. It’ll be freezing by the time hockey season rolls around, but not for the time being.
dont ruin the joke…thats sacreligious
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 19, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome to BoC – where the truth never interfers with us telling a good story. :)
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Just to let you now man, I’m in Minnesota right now, and we are not freezing. The heat index is 118. It’ll be freezing by the time hockey season rolls around, but not for the time being.
That’s what opened my eyes about California’s greatness when I was a kid. I always kind of assumed that other states didn’t have 100 degree temperatures and it was the price I paid for living in a place with awesome winters. Turns out that nope, they’re summers are still horrible PLUS they have mosquitoes and all sorts of other vile monsters.
California is SO MUCH BETTER than everywhere else.
California is SO MUCH BETTER than everywhere else in usa.
because we all know europe is the most awesome place ever
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
by sleza on Jul 19, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
that works for me :) i hope the people making those “best places to live” lists are taking notes
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
I always kind of assumed that other states didn’t have 100 degree temperatures and it was the price I paid for living in a place with awesome winters.
If you move to the Bay Area, you don’t even have to worry about 100 degree temperatures and the winters are still mild; all you’re really giving up is the good food in L.A.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The Bay Area is the equal of LA for good food, arguably.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
Except of course for burritos.
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by Earl Sleek on Jul 19, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha, you’re playing with fire there.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s still California. We got tons of bomb ass taquerias everywhere. If SoCal’ers think Chipotle is good mexican food then they have no idea what they’re talking about.
If SoCal’ers think Chipotle is good mexican
Only people in San Diego think that.
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Absolutely not. Real shithole San Diego burrito places (one of the -bertos, for example) are superior to all others, which is completely objective and not at all related to the fact that I grew up there.
I can’t convince the locals here in SF that real burritos are carne asada, guacamole, cilantro, and onions, and are relatively small. Nope. Instead I get a V2 rocket of goddamn rice and beans and sour cream and shit.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
Those are just Carne Asada Tacos your talkin about. That’s a legit Mexican meal and they’re really good, but Burritos are an American thing.
There’s no 100% legit way to make a Burrito really, it’s more about the legitness of the meat and ingredients you put into it. And lemme tell ya, there are some Taquerias in the Bay Area that are 2 Legit 2 Quit.
The beauty of the kind of burritos you find in San Diego is that they are basically tacos wrapped in burrito form. They may not be Mexico-authentic, but it’s in the ballpark.
I’m not talking about that California Burrito nonsense with the french fries that SDSU bros high five each other after eating.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
SDSU bros high five each other after eating.
i dunno why but u made me spit up my coffee laughing on this one…
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh for fuck’s sake not this again.
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Believe it. My burrito pretension is driving people away from this state at RECORD LEVELS.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
We’ve already been through all this, in the comments here starting with the picture of the NorCal Burrito.
We shot this pretentious “real burrito” argument down pretty effectively and decided that Chipotle is awesome. We even had a poll about it one time!
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We did not decide Chipotle is awesome. You guys decided that crap was awesome. But I do agree burritos is so yesterday, we should move on to pizza.
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As an Italian, I can tell you that you can ONLY get good pizza in San Francisco.
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I think those from Chicago might disagree.
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Chicago-style pizza is fucking awful.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So’s your short story.
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
We’ll see what Sir Patton Oswalt has to say about that.
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Honestly i think yours was the most interesting. The other ones i read/skimmed didn’t seem very good.
by Khaaz on Jul 19, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mee too..
I just like Chicago Pizza…
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
i agree megs is the most intresting…especially the fact its the only one I read
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If Patton gives you shit, feel free to remind him about his role in the failed Caprica series.
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Or just hold up a mirror.
BWAHAHAHAHA…
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm, too bad I missed the fun the first time around. Oddly, my personal preferences remain unchanged re: burritos.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
you always add good shit to the conversation…stop being a stranger asshole
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions
My willingness to give and take shit-talk on BoC is like the tides, the phases of the moon, or a woman’s fertility cycles.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
pretty sure those are all based on the phases of the moon.
by meetyourmako on Jul 20, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
If food tastes good then eat it!
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
by Nut on Jul 20, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, the climate in Estonia is magical, I’m sure.
Now, if you’re talking Sardinia vs. California, I’d have to think about that for a long while.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
2 recs? me thinks there’s one european lurking here… :P
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
because we all know europe is the most awesome place ever
Oh hell no.

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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
A bear will whoop a lion’s ass any day of the week.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
…except that we killed the last one a hundred years ago.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
where did the lion come from to this?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
Your list is missing “the glorious taste of freedom,” but since you’re European I’m not surprised you forgot about that.
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Nobody likes Superman anymore. He’s an alien anyway, so who cares?
Batman – now THERE is a real American hero.
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not all of europe got their ass kicked by nazis…
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
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finland got their asses kick by both of them
by Freakle on Jul 19, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, for example, Sweden joined the Nazis!
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t there a big fucking lion on the front of all Finnish sweaters?
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just a lion, but a lion that’s fucking.
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a lion that’s fucking.
Oh okay wait that’s pretty cool then. Maybe Europe is better.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What!? A California grizzly could fuck way better than some shitty overgrown cat!*
*apologies to Chandler.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yes, there is :) didn’t realize you were referring to my pretty little country
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
A country so insignificant that its own citizens don’t even recognize when people are talking about it.
A shameful country.
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
well excuse me, i like europe more than i like finland
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
The Western Hemisphere is the best Hemisphere.
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good to know, then i go and buy myself a nice litte house on the beach next week when the dollar stands at 0,0000012 euro or something like that
Good point, living here is way better than living anywhere else, even if the economy sucks.
Good luck with Greece by the way.
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Wow you even do your patriotism wrong over there.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i don’t really like patriotism either
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
have you told the english that?
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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Plus they were pretty near the only European country that was neither captured by nor joined the Nazis.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah.
Germany was in pretty bad need of a public-relations overhaul.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m impressed
Good, argument settled then.
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Why hasn’t this been rec’d a million times already?
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because it’s animal cruelty to paint flags on poor eagle’s face? :)
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
by sleza on Jul 19, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever, you guys can’t even balance your days and nights over there
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
Long days, short nights. Vice versa? Maybe that’s just Norway. Moving along…
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
The heat index
That’s what really seals it, and a top five reason why I’m never going back. At least here it’s usually a dry heat.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
lol for real I always forget how fucken weird the weather is in other states.
I just looked at that Minnesota weather forecast Meg linked and I did a double take when i saw that it was 94 degrees out there. It’s so weird that a place that’s usually so cold can get so hot, and my brain nearly exploded when i saw that they can have rain and thunderstorms while it’s 88+ degrees outside.
Seriously, how can it be 88 degrees outside with rain and thunderstorms?? That’s so fucked. Why would anyone live anywhere but California? It makes no sense!
Why would anyone live anywhere but California?
Because people here are so fucking pretentious. I would also like to meet just one other parent here who can raise their children halfway decently instead of raising spoiled little brats. The evening I took my boys out to dinner and at the table next to us was a family – dad, mom, son – each of them has their pathetic noses in a gadget instead of talking to each other, that was when I knew I had to get the fuck out of California. I cannot stand this State. I cannot stand how people raise their kids. Well I could go on, but nevermind. Other States may suck in some areas, but at least they have their manners.
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Because people here are so fucking pretentious
I watched [Friends] early on … and was very bored with it. It was just normal shit that is always shown on tv to amuse the masses.
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Uhh, the grass always seems greener on the other side i guess? I’m sure you’d witness other atrocities in other states, probably worse than a family enjoying a new toy that they saved up to purchase.
I’m from Virginia – altho I hate the summers there, I prefer the people there than here.
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Well you obviously have a personal preference for how you’d like people/parents/families to be/act since you’re from a different place with a different culture and a different way of life.
Don’t blame the people, they’re not bad people, there’s just a different culture in California then there is in other states, and vice versa. So you don’t like the culture, I imagine if you were born/raised in California you probably wouldn’t mind or notice it at all.
haha … and that’s how you excuse away bad parenting? oh okay then. :)
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Bad parenting in your opinion, depending on what you’re referring to. There’s bad parenting in every state though.
On my list of bad parenting techniques, everyone staring at their mobile devices doesn’t rise terribly far, and I doubt it’s unique to California besides.
And it makes me think of this awesome bit of Louis CK wisdom regarding being judgmental about parents in restaurants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u2ZsoYWwJA
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
Really…You’d think that crazy old bat would be bitching about people beating their children in public…But no its some mundane bullshit about cell phones…
Shit doesn’t happen in fucking Virginia though…
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
If I started on a rant on abuse, then I might as well re-open up the blog I had long ago. That is where I really went off on abuse. Commenting on video games while out to dinner with your family is just bad manners.
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California is what all the other worse states will be in about 10-15 years. We are the future of America.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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www.battleofcali.com
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Commenting on video games while out to dinner with your family is just bad manners.
What? How else are my folks going to know what adventures I had in GTA land?
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by Earl Sleek on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You had a blog? How did people receive the newsletter? Via what?
by ScottyKnows on Jul 20, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why do you blame California for this? I’ve seen terrible parents everywhere I’ve travelled.
Californians don’t have the market cornered on assholes. They’re everywhere.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
@shampeon on the Twitternet
They are everywhere – more are here.
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You’re moving too? :)
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You’re dying…of old age.
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
Eventually we all will. Unless we die jumping out of a plane which is my choice 1.
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each of them has their pathetic noses in a gadget instead of talking to each other
Well he typed out "oh goodness" to me … we’re in yim together.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
We weren’t out to dinner – I was at work, he was at home. Not really sure if you can tell the difference there. :)
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people here are so fucking pretentious. I would also like to meet just one other parent here who can raise their children halfway decently instead of raising spoiled little brats. The evening I took my boys out to dinner and at the table next to us was a family – dad, mom, son – each of them has their pathetic noses in a gadget instead of talking to each other, that was when I knew I had to get the fuck out of California. I cannot stand this State. I cannot stand how people raise their kids.
Not to mention judgmental.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m hugely judgemental. I’ll never deny that. :)
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Must be the Virginia
:)
I have a friend from Virginia. He judges me
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
because it’s ridiculously expensive. seriously, for what it costs to share an apartment in L.A., you could own a house in most states.
by sixteen.wins on Jul 19, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in Minnesota right now, and we are not freezing.
Did you click the link?

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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Been waiting to botch one of these for a while
Sad to see the USA lose the World Cup #prayforAmerica. But did anyone else lose their mind on Sawa’s goal? #highlightreel
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.
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Sad to see Casey Anthony got acquitted #prayforCaylee. But did anyone else think that she’s now available? #highlightreel
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
So you were one of those many men offering to take care of her huh?
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Beautiful.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott.
by SharksFanEst.1994 on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
since this already got way off-topic...baby otters to rescue
i just want to say that as i’ve never visited usa, i’m in no position to judge it :)
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
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Most here haven’t visited Europe I would guess, they judge anyways. :)
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
I’ve been there. It’s awesome! And yet California is still uber alles!
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Most here haven’t visited Europe I would guess, they judge anyways.
That’s my right as an American. It’s in the Constitution.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Otters! Otters make me think of the Monterey Bay Aquarium. The aquarium makes me think of that CSN commercial at Monterey Bay. That commercial makes me think of the Sharks.
It’s like a hybridized game of Six Degrees.
The otters in the picture are river otters. Monterey has sea otters. Lawyered.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
Law dog.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
how can you recognize what kind of otters those are in the pic?
Мы в любовь играли,
И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
River otters are smaller with longer bodies. Sea otters are super fluffy when they’re babies.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
but… baby otters!
how well havlat is expected to fit to the first line with thornton and marleau?
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И как кровь из вены капает слеза.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BABY!!!!
I say beautifully, unless he’s actually on a line with Clowe and Pavelski. :)
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Your line combinations sound like some European-ass bullshit.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You’re just jealous.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
There is no way I’m jealous of Europeaness. You can just put it away, Mister.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Europeaness envy is plain to see.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Can the Otters play wings for Michal Handzus?
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Otter nonsense.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
booooooooo!!!
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
A truer word has never been ottered.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why I otter!
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
If I hurt you, turn the otter cheek.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Otter?
I never really knew her!
"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"
by Semi_Colon on Jul 19, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think there are 2 options for our top 6
I think in theory our best lines would be:
Marleau – Thornton – Pavelski
Clowe – Couture – Havlat
Joe Thornton likes playing with right handed shots and Pavelski is the only righty in our top 6. Being a righty would also make a transition to right wing a bit easier I would think. Also with these lines we keep Couture and Clowe together since they seem to have some good chemistry. This also gives us a speed threat on each line like DP talked about.
However I think these lines are more practical for reasons stated below:
Marleau – Thornton – Couture
Clowe – Pavelski – Havlat
Couture actually played a fair bit on Thorntons wing throughout the season from what i remember. Whenever the team seemed desperate for goals they would throw Couture on Thornton’s wing, probably because Thornton and Couture were the only guys that were “on” at the time (that seemed to be the case a lot during the regular season). In game 5 against the Canucks Couture played on Thornton’s wing while Heatley dropped to the 3rd line (and actually looked pretty good).
Also with Couture scoring 32 goals in his rookie season, he seems like he may be more of a goal scorer which is what we need on Thornton’s wing. Pavelski seems like a better fit to play 2nd line center since he’s probably a better playmaker than Couture currently is, and he’s better at faceoffs.
We’d be splitting up Cloweture and forcing a left handed center to play right wing but Pavelski and Couture would be playing the roles that they’re best suited to play, which is probably what’s most important.
We’d be splitting up Cloweture
Why not Clowe-Thornton/Pavelski-Couture, then? Marleau-Havlat could be the wingers on the other line.
I dunno, that kinda seems like a waste putting our 2 fastest players on the same line with a center who’s not particularly fast.
Also the problem people in Minnesota had with Havlat seemed to be that he didn’t shoot enough and that he tried to be too much of a playmaker, which isn’t really what Thornton needs on his wing. Although Havlat did have 229 shots last season which is pretty solid so maybe they’re just crazy.
Yeah i dunno, that line could work too. We have a lot of options I guess. Mclellan loves mixing up the lines every other shift so I’m sure we’ll see all of these variations throughout the year.
I think if we’re gonna split up Couture and Clowe then Couture would benefit more from playing with Thornton. If Couture can score 32 goals in his rookie year without Thornton, then i’m curious to see how many goals he can score with Thornton.
Clowe seems to try to play a lot like Thornton anyways, so i think they’re better paired with other people.
What’s this? Informed and reasonable opinions about hockey in the comments?
YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!
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My line combos are still the best. Plus, I showed prescience regarding the Andrew Murray signing.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Clowe seems to try to play a lot like Thornton anyways
huh?
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
OK THAT WASNT EVEN ME. I think my little sister was on my computer while i was using the bathroom. It won’t happen again i promise.
Piss-poor* excuse.
* – or shitty, if appropriate
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec’d for simultaneously doubling up on puns and CYA.
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, that kinda seems like a waste putting our 2 fastest players on the same line with a center who’s not particularly fast.
At the same time that center is a great passer and could be a threat to send both wingers on breakaways with lay up passes behind the D
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The comments on today’s post are a good example of how this blog starts to disintegrate and eat itself when we don’t have hockey to argue about. It’s all very representative of what we do here, especially the stuff that was so offensive RUDY deleted it.
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This blog is the best blog.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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Debatable.
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I rec’d that shit.
Who the hell would debate that?
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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People.
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I rec’d that shit.
Those people are wrong.
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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How so?
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I rec’d that shit.
Because we turn off our phones when it’s time to eat dinner GODDAMMIT.
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn right we do.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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I don’t.
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I rec’d that shit.
That is so goddamn rude. Have some consideration for the people seated at the tables next to you!
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually leave my phone in the car…Less things between me and food.
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by Steven Hida on Jul 19, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Simple, if the people don’t see that this is the best blog then clearly they are wrong. It’s black and white. There is no grey here. No room for discussion. End of.
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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How so?
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
I’m eating apple pie while watching Memphis Beat. I’m not answering your questions anymore. :)
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The fuck is Memphis beat?
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I rec’d that shit.
just normal shit that is always shown on tv to amuse the masses.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This blog is the best blog.
BoC’s been going downhill ever since Cheechew left.
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by Megalodon on Jul 19, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It went off the cliff when you missed your chance to ban me.
Wait, shit, I -
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah this shit has gotten way too mainstream
by meetyourmako on Jul 19, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
muhahahahahahahaha…..he was like jesus….he left our world and now weve destroyed it!!
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe if we keep screwing up, he’ll return.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 20, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
RUDY deleted it.
I had to pick that time to not pay attention to the riveting twists and turns of this thread. Criminy!
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy clearly believes in censorship.
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
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Hahahaha
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I rec’d that shit.
Rudy clearly believes in censorship.
If I did I would’ve deleted all your shitty posts.
by RudyKelly on Jul 19, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
especially the stuff that was so offensive RUDY deleted it.
Enough lunge-bashing, people! It’s not that stupid!
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by Earl Sleek on Jul 19, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope Havlat plays well enough that I’m not tempted to start calling him Asshat. It’s just so easy.
I won’t Havlat.
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by whine_country on Jul 19, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I laugh hysterically at every pun on this site…and Im ok with that…
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 20, 2011 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Pollack has the right idea here. You can’t put your top 3 forwards all on the same line (so Couture should be on the 2nd). With Thornton centering the top line, what we really need at right wing is a shooter, preferably a right-handed one (remember Cheechoo?). Pavelski fits that bill perfectly, and his defense and hockey intelligence are also worthy of a top-line spot. With Clowe and Couture together on the 2nd line there should be plenty of scoring there, even if Havlat is mediocre. The third line will suffer a huge scoring drop from last year, but I think a Mitchell-Handzus-McGinn line is good enough to be a shut-down line if they focus on defense, and I can’t remember the last time the Sharks had a true shut-down line. If there is cap space, we should definitely re-sign Wellwood too.
Marleau-Thornton-Pavelski
Clowe-Couture-Havlat
Mitchell-Handzus-McGinn
WHOEVER (definitely Benn Ferriero)
(definitely Benn Ferriero)
It’s a deal!
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You can’t put your top 3 forwards all on the same line
You can’t possibly think Logan Couture is better than Joe Pavelski, can you?
Joe Pavelski has likely hit his peak in terms of scoring, while with Couture it’s mostly just potential so far. If he matures a bit he could easily score more points than Pavelski this year, but I’d still hesitate to say he was better as an all-around player.
I do think that Couture is more offensively talented than Pavelski though. With defense and faceoffs and everything else I don’t think so.
The thing about Pavelski being our only good right-handed shot is a good point.
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Joe Pavelski has likely hit his peak in terms of scoring
Curious, what makes you say that?
With defense and faceoffs and everything else I don’t think so.
Couture has room for improvement in both areas, but he is no slouch.
The thing about Pavelski being our only good right-handed shot is a good point.
I don’t think Joe Thornton really cares whether he has a RW-RHS or not.
My lines remain the standard.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Curious, what makes you say that?
Pavelski COULD have a big up year this season, especially if he plays with Thornton, but he’s averaged around sixty points for the past three years despite increased play time. Why should we assume that will change dramatically?
Couture has room for improvement in both areas, but he is no slouch.
I’m sure Couture will be awesome with both of those things this year, honestly. But since Pavelski already has proven ability in both areas I’d prefer to keep him at center.
I don’t think Joe Thornton really cares whether he has a RW-RHS or not.
Yeah probably not but it’s at least an actual element of a player’s game we can discuss and analyze. Anyone care to chart the goals scored by Joe’s right-wingers based on handedness?
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Yeah probably not but it’s at least an actual element of a player’s game we can discuss and analyze. Anyone care to chart the goals scored by Joe’s right-wingers based on handedness?
That’d be pretty interesting. Though it might be a little biased considering the lefties he played with were probably a lot more talented than the righties he’s played with (Marleau and Heatley vs. Cheechoo and Seto).
Thornton’s never really had an all star level right handed goal scorer on his wing besides Cheechoo the year he won the Rocket Richard trophy.
Which is why i’ve had many a dream in the past about the Sharks trading for Iginla lol.
Thornton’s never really had an all star level right handed goal scorer on his wing besides Cheechoo the year he won the Rocket Richard trophy.
WTF? JOE THORNTON USED TO PLAY FOR THE BOSTON BRUINS?? I thought he was just a machine sent back from the future to the year 2005 to lead the Sharks to glory.
and before anyone says anything HE’S STILL WORKING ON IT OK SO STFU!
by Khaaz on Jul 20, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just say it was your sister again.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m fine with your lines since they’re basically the same as mine but do you really want Clowe on the right wing vs. Couture? Is there a reason?
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I’m fine with your lines since they’re basically the same as mine
No, yours are the same as mine. :)
Is there a reason?
No, I actually wasn’t being specific as to which guy starts on which wing.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Joe Thornton really cares whether he has a RW-RHS or not.
In the past he seemed to care a lot about it considering how he brought it up in several interviews. Though lately i don’t think it’s that big a deal since he’s had so much experience playing with Marleau and Heatley (two lefties).
he brought it up
I think he gets asked about it by people who think it matters.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
True, but in older interviews he’s pretty much agreed. I saw an interview last season though where he said it didn’t matter to him really, but it was real ass-kissery type stuff like, ‘well when you’re playing with guys as good as Patrick Marleau and Dany Heatley you don’t really care whether they’re right or left handed haha!’
Pavs hasn’t broken 30 goals yet in his career, and hasn’t really come close. Couture did it his rookie (well, rookieish) year.
Pavelski doesn’t have the offensive instincts that Couture has, which is no slight on Pavs. I’d be happy with his 60-ish points plus good defense and faceoffs for the rest of his Sharks career.
Couture should be more of a PPG player, with more goals than assists. He’s going to be a centerpiece player of the Sharks offense once Marleau and Thornton are gone/retired. So if he’s a 60 point player, that would be a disappointment.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
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He’s going to be a centerpiece player of the Sharks offense once Marleau and Thornton are gone/retired.
I look forward to this era.
(Marleau’s a pretty good comparable for Couture, I think.)
Marleau’s a pretty good comparable for Couture, I think.
Couture is nowhere near as fast. But points-wise, that’s about right.
And note I said “a centerpiece player.” If our offense is Couture at center, with a wish at left wing and a song in our heart at right, we’re fucking screwed.
The robot felt...more than Patrick Marleau but less than Yoshimi's pink model.
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Couture should be more of a PPG player, with more goals than assists.
You expect him to have 41+ goals next year?
by meetyourmako on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh I wanna quote stuff too
Joe Pavelski has likely hit his peak in terms of scoring
NO WAY BRO! Even if Pavelski scores at the same rate as last year, he’ll still score 73 points if he actually plays the full 82 games. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Pavelski got 30+ goals and 80+ points playing on Thorntons wing next season.
With defense and faceoffs and everything else I don’t think so.
Couture’s an awesome two way player, but Pavelski definitely gets the edge over Couture when you take faceoffs into account.
You can’t possibly think Logan Couture is better than Joe Pavelski, can you?
Isn’t that what you think, Rudy-hates-Pavelski?
My lines still are the best.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy just refuses to believe that anyone can be more clutch than Joe Pavelski.
by meetyourmako on Jul 20, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s funny because now I have to defend the guy that you guys overrate because you’re starting to really overrate someone else.
I feel it’s a victory to force you into defending either of them.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it’s hard to make fun of one retarded thing you guys say when you start saying stuff that’s even more retarded.
We come through in the clutch like that.
by meetyourmako on Jul 20, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So instead, you start saying retarded things? We win! :)
#justlikeroundone
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by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Todd will break in on the HOF all alone and be denied at the moment of truth.
by ScottyKnows on Jul 20, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
well not denied hell fumble it up…still solid comment
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 21, 2011 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Rudy loves the stick!
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by whine_country on Jul 20, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Couture vs. Pavelski
Couture and Pavelski are probably about equal right now in my opinion, but Couture obviously has more upside. Pavelski had great stats last season (especially considering the missed games) but you have to remember he played on the top power play unit and Couture did not.
Pavelski has a great wrist shot and he loves to shoot. Since Thornton is basically a pass-only player they should fit well together. The right-handed vs. left-handed thing isn’t always important but it obviously comes into play when setting up one-timers. I feel like San Jose has been one of the worst teams in the NHL over the past 10 years in terms of setting up those kinds of one-timers (especially on the power play). The only exception would be the Thornton-Cheechoo setup while it lasted. Since the Sharks USUALLY have the wrong setup in terms of handedness with their forwards, they try a lot more deflection plays and a lot less one-timers.
Couture and Pavelski are probably about equal right now in my opinion, but Couture obviously has more upside.
by meetyourmako on Jul 21, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions

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