Kings Gameday- Subj:
Subj: Dustin Penner
A few days ago, I e-mailed blogging superstar Derek Zona the following:
Subj: Penner
My Dearest Derek,
What the fuck.
Sincerely,
Rudy Kelly
Zona wrote back that he didn't know what the fuck but over the next few days he did e-mail me a few interesting tidbits about Penner. Like the following:
| Penner | Shot Dist. |
| 2007 | 30.3 |
| 2008 | 27 |
| 2009 | 25.8 |
| 2010 | 29.8 |
| 2011 | 34.2 |
For some reason, Penner has been averaging shots from really far out this season. If I had to guess, I'd say it's not so much that he's shooting from farther out as it is he's not getting shots from in close to help bring those numbers down. Penner seems like he'll throw the puck on net if he doesn't have a passing lane, which accounts for the farther shots out, but then he's not getting set up in tight to get rebounds and tips that will bring his shot distance down. That's something he's corrected in his last few games, at least, as he's been driving the net a lot more. Hopefully that holds.
Also, something else weird that Derek found:
Shot distance when Jarret Stoll is on the ice: ~38 feet
Shot distance when Jarret Stoll isn't on the ice: ~28 feet
Does the fact that Stoll doesn't really handle the puck when entering the zone as a center force Penner to create from farther out? I have no idea. It might not mean anything! It might mean everything! Who knows! EVERYTHING IS CHAOS.
Stat Update!
Zona followed up with this e-mail yesterday:
Penner career S/G prior to LA: 2.28
Penner S/G since trade to LA: 1.84
So, just to sum up: Penner is shooting less, his shots are coming from farther away, and, on top of all that, he has poor shooting luck.
Other than that, he's doing fine?
HOLY SHIT UPDATE:
Read this post from Mayor's Manor. Penner addresses Pancake-gate and offers an exciting opportunity. A taste:
First and foremost, I think we can agree that having delicious pancakes that your wife made for breakfast, for a 1pm game, is not out of the norm. Secondly, "SOBS" (Sudden Onset Back Spasms) can occur at any moment, doing just about anything you can think of, and is a very serious issue.
Those who have experienced "SOBS," know it is no laughing matter. I'm a little hurt, to tell you the truth, that the plight of my people isn't being taken seriously.
The whole thing is amazing, you should read it.
Subj: Jonathan Quick
Hey that Jonathan Quick guy is good. A few things, though:
Even Strength Save Percentage
11-12: .932
10-11: .921
09-10: .919
08-09: .926
Average: .925
OK, that's not too egregious. Quick will probably fall a little bit and end in the .925-.930 range and that's still have a really good year. Or maybe he's legitimately getting better, which wouldn't be all that surprising since he's only 25. That's not the thing about his numbers that worries me. This is:
Penalty Kill Save Percentage
11-12: .936
10-11: .903
09-10: .853
08-09: .869
Average: .89
Quick is getting incredibly lucky when the Kings are killing penalties. That's probably going to fall. If Quick had his average penalty kill save percentage this season, he'd have allowed 10 more goals on the power play. Luckily, penalty kill save percentage is so random that there's a chance it stays up all season. Then it corrects like a mother fucker next season and the Kings sign Quick for cheap as a result! Hooray!
So is Quick going to start off really hot and then fade as the season progresses while Bernier does the opposite every season? Because instead they should, you know, play well all the time. It's so obvious!
Zonarrific Update!
Hart Memorial Trophy: Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles Kings
The Kings are last in the league in goals and have flirted with less than two goals per game for the entire season. Quick's backup, Jonathan Bernier ranks 71st of 76 goaltenders in even strength save percentage and 62nd in overall save percentage. Without Quick, the Kings are a first-half lottery team. With him, the Kings are locked in a tie for the last playoff spot by points percentage.
That's 100% true and it's honestly refreshing to see someone actually choose the most valuable player rather than the best forward... but I'm more excited by the fact that someone finally recognized that Dave Bolland is Chicago's shutdown center, not Jonathan Toews. I swear to God if I see one more person throw Toews's name into the ring for the Selke and then immediately reference his faceoff percentage I'll
(He also gives Kopitar an honorable mention for the Selke. I swear it's like Zona is trying to seduce me or something. Weirdest part? It's working.)
Subj: Matt Greene & Jack Johnson
Matt Greene has averaged about 2 minutes more in Darryl Sutter's first 10 games than he did in Terry Murray's last 10. He has been playing better under Sutter.
Jack Johnson has averaged about 2 minutes less. He has also been playing better under Sutter.
(Andrei Loktionov? He's actually played a minute less under Sutter, although that's probably because Murray's last 10 games occurred when Mike Richards was concussed.)
Subj: WSH's First Goal Against LA
I just wanted to point something out from Washington's first goal against the Kings. So the Kings have the puck in Washington's zone and then Mike Knuble gathers the puck and tries to break it out. Knuble has the puck and right above him is Dustin Brown, who has turned and cycled back to cover for Doughty breaking in.

The Caps have a possible 2-on-1 I guess but the Kings are fine because all Dustin Brown has to do is beat Knuble down the ice and there's no fucking way Dustin Brown loses a footrace with Mike "I'm 39 years old" Knuble, right? ...Right?

Welp.
It was a really bizarre play by Brown. Knuble passed the puck and took maybe 3 hard strides and he suddenly had 5 feet on Brown, who was busy looking at Marcus Johansson and didn't notice. By the time Brown realized that he needed to pick it up, it was too late. It's interesting to see the breakdown: Scuderi anticipates Brown getting back and shades over to Johansson, thus making him surprised that he's suddenly playing a 2-on-1; meanwhile, Bernier is anticipating Scuderi challenging the shooter, thus making him surprised that Johansson is getting a shot off unchallenged. It's kind of a shitty goal and ordinarily I'd expect Bernier to stop that one but in this case I think it all started with Brown.
(I like Kopitar realized Brown was falling behind and tried to propel him forward with his stick. That Kopi, so helpful.)
Prediction: Kings win, 5-2. It happened once, maybe it can happen again? Maybe?
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This is a pretty great post but what does it have to do with Winnipeg?
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
by Megalodon on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
I wonder if Mike Cammalleri still wishes he was playing in a “hockey town?”
by RudyKelly on Jan 12, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Shot distance stuff
I’ll bet that Dustin Penner doesn’t know about this. Somebody needs to tell him at the pancake breakfast thing.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
youll be prouod rudy..learned from you..
got to teach what “handle” means last nite…oh Boc you are knowledge gold
Niles: You'll see who feels foolish when I'm sitting on a mechanical bull sipping champagne.
www.battleofcali.com
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The most overrated composer in music history? :)
www.battleofcali.com
by Earl Sleek on Jan 12, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Penner has been averaging shots from really far out this season.
See also, almost all of the Los Angeles Kings.
At least Murray isn’t around saying “Well, how about that?!” whenever a goal goes in on the 90th low percentage shot.
Dinglebarnin' It JftC
I need to try that sometime – send someone an email just saying “what the fuck?” and see what type of response I get.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
by Angy on Jan 12, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Quick is getting incredibly lucky when the Kings are killing penalties. That’s probably going to fall.
Also, this has been true for a season and a half now. I know there’s still a debate on how much defenders can impact save percentage, if at all, but with the Kings’ PK with Mitchell and Scuderi, I wonder if we should count that out.
Dinglebarnin' It JftC
So what you are really saying is..
everybody needs to take one giant step forward?
"I just leaned over to dip into some delicious pancakes that my wife made" - Penner
http://kingshockeyforwomen.com
Points for everyone!
Coyotes – 1
Ducks – 1
Kings – 1
Stars – 2
Sharks – 2
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Dean needs to apologize to the NHL offices next. It’s getting ridiculous. At least we may have taken out 3 of their players (Souray (suspension), Benn (took Stoll’s slapshot off hand at end of OT), Lehtonen (actually he’s probably fine)).
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
Now I wished I watched it instead of doing my scoring duty.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
One of the best of the season in terms of pure entertainment value IMO
by Briceratops on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Minus the injuries that is
I hope Kopitar and Benn are alright.
by Briceratops on Jan 12, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon Mexico annex Texas already
Those fuckers…
When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die.
I only see clearly what I remember.
Per PD -
The Stars and Kings got physical late in the game with Anze Kopitar injured on a monster Brendan Morrow check, Mike Richards getting an instigator and misconduct conduct penalties for fighting with a face shield; and Drew Doughty getting a misconduct in overtime
What the fuck happened???
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Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
The Kings took a few opportunities to "fall" on Lehtonen, and the Stars didn't like it.
Toss in the hit from Morrow on Kopitar and a crazy third period, and you get a few scrums.
"He punched the highlights out of her hair.... He punched the HIGHLIGHTS out of her hair!!!" -- Young Neil
Morrow hit Kopi’s shoulder and he went flying into the boards. MR fought Morrow. That took two centers out of the game.
Doughty’s misconduct was for being shoved into Lehtonen by Souray. Since Souray was also punching Williams in the back of the head in the general scrum, it was pretty crazy.
PPppf.
Dinglebarnin' It JftC
it’d be interesting to see a WOWY script run with Penner. The perception is that he has not “clicked” with Kopitar. I’d suspect that that is myth. The Penner-Kopi-JW was dominant after the Penner trade and before the Kopitar injury. After the injury Murray routinely matched Penner with Handzus (which was awful). This year Penner hasn’t seen any substantial time with Kopitar. I’d still like to see the Kings top two to be:
Penner-Kopitar-Williams
Brown-Richards-Stoll
But tough to argue that when the Kopitar line has been dominant as it has since the promotion of Williams.
Maybe even:
Penner-Kopitar-Williams
Richardson-Richards-Stoll
Brown-Loktionov-Lewis
the Richards line gets all shutdown minutes and the loktionov line gets about the same amount of playing time. adding brown to the line could add a little bit more of a scoring threat.

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