Kings Gameday: Catching Up On The Break
Ugh, you people again? Son of a bitch. Here, read these from over the break and stop bugging me:
This article on CBSSports was a pretty good overview of how different NHL stars are used by their coaches. The important part:
3) Where would the Kings and Devils be without Kopitar and Patrik Elias this season? Not only are they the top point producers for two teams that have little offense after them, but they have also been doing it under less-than-ideal circumstances for offense, while both spend significant time every night killing penalties for two of the top penalty killing teams in the league. Kopitar, for example, logs 2:28 of shorthanded ice time per game for the Kings, while Elias checks in at just under two minutes per game. Of the 25 players on the scatterplot above, only nine of them play more than one minute of shorthanded ice-time per game. Twelve of them play less than 10 seconds per game.
The article has a few flaws (you shouldn't really compare QualComp across teams) but it gives you an idea of the pressure that is on Anze Kopitar night in, night out. A lot of guys either have to dig themselves out of a hole by starting in the defensive zone or they have to play tough competition, but Kopitar is one of the few guys who has to do both. (As an aside, both Joe Thornton and Ryan Getzlaf play the same role as Kopitar. California centers own.)
It's funny, when the Kings traded for Mike Richards everyone said, "Oh good, now some pressure will be taken off Kopitar," but... nope? And seriously, why should the Kings take pressure off Kopitar? Kopitar is awesome, he should be playing in the toughest situations. Doughty should (and is) too. Your best players need to be your best players.
I'm still way madder than I should be about that whole Top 100 thing John Buccigross did, especially what he wrote about Kopitar:
He entered the NHL as a 19-year-old and is pretty much the same player. A very good player but not in the "elite." Of course, he doesn't have much skill around him in L.A. Put Parise on his line or find him an identical twin and see what happens.
I know Bucci is more just a guy who loves hockey and not an expert but everything about this is wrong. Seriously, who the fuck thinks Kopitar is the same player he was when he entered the league? I'm going to murder an otter.
However, I do enjoy that he says Kopitar is not elite* and then ranks him 15th out of like 600 NHL hockey players. Sorry, everybody behind Kopitar, I guess you're not elite either. Hear that, Hossa & Lundqvist? Tough break, guys.
Also, I just wanted to point out that Kopitar is only 4 months older than Claude Giroux. Seriously. Isn't that weird?
*Someone making a pedantic difference between "very good" and "elite" is code for, "I am stupid and don't really have a real opinion, so instead I'm going to make some vague point and hope you don't notice."
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Finally, here's a much better article because it reinforces my biased viewpoint. From Hockey Prospectus:
With a roster including Anze Kopitar, Mike Richards, Drew Doughty, Justin Williams and Dustin Brown, it's highly unlikely the Kings will continue to shoot blanks. The league-wide average shooting percentage at even strength is about 8 percent, and most clubs will regress towards that over time. Assuming the Kings score on 8 percent of their shots over the latter half of the year, we can expect LA to score 80 goals rather than the 57 they managed through the first 41 games -- a 23-goal increase, or nearly four wins.
Hooray! Do you think they'll go down Figueroa first when they have the Cup Parade, or finish there? Probably finish there. I better go reserve my seat!
Prediction: The Kings are coming off an 8-day layoff and they're playing a fired up Blue Jackets team that just got embarrassed last night. I'm optimistic!
Also, I'm going to have a close eye on Vinny Prospal tonight. You know, just in case.
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what did u do on the break sir?
Niles: You'll see who feels foolish when I'm sitting on a mechanical bull sipping champagne.
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions
I watched a blank TV screen for 2 1/2 hours a night while imagining a Kings game was being played. They’re on a winning streak!
by RudyKelly on Feb 1, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
That’s pretty good, but I prefer this.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
by Megalodon on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Right in the face.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
Whoa. That guy looks like the cross-eyed lovechild of Derek Joslin and Shea Weber.
by meetyourmako on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I’m optimistic!
Yeah me too! Not for the same thing you are tho.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Your best players need to be your best players.
Or you could start your best players 80% of the time in the offensive zone.</canucks>
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
by ievans on Feb 1, 2012 11:26 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Also because the Kings don’t have Manny Malhotra to handle all the defensive stuff and earn offensive face-offs.
by meetyourmako on Feb 1, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to go tell Vancouver that this is how you riot after a game.
At least 73 people were killed when riots broke out after a soccer game Wednesday in Egypt, the country’s deputy health minister said.
At least 180 others were injured in the riots, the deputy minister said.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
Watching soccer makes me want to kill people too.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
by Megalodon on Feb 1, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I think half those 180 injured were diving.
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by Earl Sleek on Feb 1, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
i spit up my dr. pepper….jesus earl
Niles: You'll see who feels foolish when I'm sitting on a mechanical bull sipping champagne.
www.battleofcali.com
by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 1, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
guy overpriced his sodas at .75 near our cubicle..no one buys his sodas..cuz the guy downstairs sells for .50…well the guy downstairs got moved…so i had to buy off the .75 guy…all his sodas were expired…except the regualr dr. pepper…i prefer diet also…but shit i needed a soda..
i know this is all fascinating…but i do have more spade bathroom humor…
a guy cam walking in..and pissed like this:
one….(quick break in between)…two (quick break in between)..three (quick break in between)…flushed the urninal and left…i dont think he washed his hands…..it was weirdest sounding piss ever…some kind of popgun pissing!
Niles: You'll see who feels foolish when I'm sitting on a mechanical bull sipping champagne.
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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Feb 1, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to go tell Vancouver that this is how you riot after a game.
I think half those 180 injured were diving.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
by Nut on Feb 1, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Hate to break it to you, Rudy, but it just goes to show you that the Kings don’t have elite players.
- Kopitar: "A very good player but not in the “elite.”"
- Bobby Ryan: “This guy is elite.”
SBN’s autocorrect really needs to lay off — I fail to see how this correction is EVER helpful.
Whoops, I used 15 and 42 instead of 1 and 1. Thanks, SBN!
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It’s weird how being on the West Coast affects how the media views players. Like guys like Kopitar or Boyle will get underrated, but at the same time guys like Getzlaf 3 years ago or Doughty 2 years ago will get overrated. It’s the “I never see this guy play so he can’t be that good” dynamic butting heads with the “I’ll find some guy no one ever watches and talk about how great he is to look smart” dynamic. Pierre McGuire’s head must feel like exploding all the time.
by RudyKelly on Feb 1, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think it has more to do with the eastern press just forgetting about the west coast players once they’ve been hyped. A guy like Zach Parise will get hyped, and then has staying power because they see him play all the time. If Kopitar played for the Hawks, they’d probably have a Toews-level crush on him, but he’s on the Kings, so he’s just a good player that isn’t elite, because he’d have to lead the league in scoring or goals to get anyone’s attention.
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
by ievans on Feb 1, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Well at least he’s worthy of the praise.
For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.
by Nut on Feb 1, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Re: Pronger
It stinks we won’t see his personality again this season. He’s an attraction.
Seriously. Fuck this guy, for real.
I cracked the code!
[skill level] x [Division multiplier] + [media exposure composite] = [elite level]
Where [conference multiplier] is:
Atlantic or Northeast: 1.2
Southeast: 1.0
Central: 1.1
Northwest: 0.9
Pacific: 0.8
And [media exposure composite] is the sum of all that apply:
Canadian team: 1
Original 6 team: 2
- of national broadcast games per month
- of Cups won in the last 15 years
population of local media market divided by 500,000
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
by ievans on Feb 1, 2012 1:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Formatting lameness strikes again. It should read:
And [media exposure composite] is the sum of all that apply:
Canadian team: 1
Original 6 team: 2
Number of national broadcast games per month
Number of Cups won in the last 15 years
population of local media market divided by 500,000
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
by ievans on Feb 1, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you shouldn’t really compare QualComp across teams
Stats people always mutter that to cover their asses, but then they go ahead and do it anyway.
Rankings like “1st among 6 regular defenseman” sorta works but then you can see that on some teams the assignments are more evenly split so the gap between 1st and 4th is pretty slim, whereas on other teams the gap is dramatic.
Yeah, I just forgot where I was typing this. Did you hear about the latest news from Winnipeg? The fog started a fire. The FOG.
Dinglebarnin' It JftC
by Niesy on Feb 1, 2012 1:48 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
THE FOG.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
The perfect crime. Who would suspect The FOG?
Picklesnakebit since 2011.
@shampeon
by ievans on Feb 1, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I heard that one time a hailstorm raped a guy.
"The beating hearts of other creatures are like needles in my brain. Only once I have silenced them all will I have peace." -Owen Nolan
Battle of California
by Megalodon on Feb 1, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Some cold front scammed me for $500. It said it knew a Nigerian thunderstorm that had a windfall and needed to move out of the country.
by meetyourmako on Feb 1, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Here are the highlights of tonight’s game from the Columbus perspective if anyone wants to watch them.
by RudyKelly on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
No thanks.
But i did see on TSN they are accusing you guys of cheating by stopping the game clock for 1 second to give Drew time to score the game winner.
HAHAHA
That kinda dirty play we would expect from the Ducks, not the Kings.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)

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